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Phenotyping feed conversion...pictures anyone?
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<blockquote data-quote="Jeanne - Simme Valley" data-source="post: 672749" data-attributes="member: 968"><p>cmf1 - are you looking to go completely to grass for your cow/calf operation? or all the way to finishing market steers? </p><p>Dun does a great job on grass - and if you look at his calves/cows - they have VOLUME. Like I said, phenotypically, they've gotta have the capacity to eat roughage.</p><p>My cowherd flourishes on a roughage diet. Granted, we do have lush grasses, but I also have fairly high milkers being Simmental - although they are not nearly has high producers as they used to be.</p><p>Dun starts his calves out on grain for weaning, but I believe they go right out to pasture/stock piled winter grazing after a few months (is that correct?). Whereas, we grain our heifers thru to breeding. Different climates, as Dun can testify (he lived out here). </p><p>I know you were making a point - but 15# of feed for 1# of gain is a bit much. The range is usually around 5:1 up to maybe 8:1 ???</p><p>"The eye of the master" is still the best way to pick the most efficient cattle. In contemporary groups in equal management, the easiest keepers float to the top. No rocket science.</p><p>If you're looking to puchase easy keeping cows from someone, walk his pastures just prior to weaning. You can SEE the grass converters (if you are sure he doesn't suppliment them) - they'll be in decent condition with a strapping good calf on their side.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jeanne - Simme Valley, post: 672749, member: 968"] cmf1 - are you looking to go completely to grass for your cow/calf operation? or all the way to finishing market steers? Dun does a great job on grass - and if you look at his calves/cows - they have VOLUME. Like I said, phenotypically, they've gotta have the capacity to eat roughage. My cowherd flourishes on a roughage diet. Granted, we do have lush grasses, but I also have fairly high milkers being Simmental - although they are not nearly has high producers as they used to be. Dun starts his calves out on grain for weaning, but I believe they go right out to pasture/stock piled winter grazing after a few months (is that correct?). Whereas, we grain our heifers thru to breeding. Different climates, as Dun can testify (he lived out here). I know you were making a point - but 15# of feed for 1# of gain is a bit much. The range is usually around 5:1 up to maybe 8:1 ??? "The eye of the master" is still the best way to pick the most efficient cattle. In contemporary groups in equal management, the easiest keepers float to the top. No rocket science. If you're looking to puchase easy keeping cows from someone, walk his pastures just prior to weaning. You can SEE the grass converters (if you are sure he doesn't suppliment them) - they'll be in decent condition with a strapping good calf on their side. [/QUOTE]
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