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<blockquote data-quote="Mr. Greenjeans" data-source="post: 1680005" data-attributes="member: 7085"><p>You are correct in his bone and mass. We talk about curve benders in the field of EPD's but in this case, I first saw his mature prototype terminal sire image and was completely surprised to see his curve bending calving ease numbers: top 10% in CE, BW, and CEM. His mature shoulders originally had me concerned (I fully expected this to be listed as an issue of concern in this thread) but they seem to have manifest later in his development by the looks of his yearling photo. After using A.I. for 7 years, I have noticed that the calving ease bulls that maintain good growth are not necessarily low birth weight but actually shorter gestation length. All of the calving ease sires known for growth that I have used (KHR 47R, Pure Power, M/L Advantage, Govenor 3N) seem to have their calves arrive 7-10 days prior to the due date according to the Gelbvieh association's gestation table. All of my pasture bulls, while out of these same A.I. sire lineages, hit the due date within a day or two of the expected due dates. I wouldn't be surprised to see this fella's calves arrive a week or so early allowing the manifestation of growth characteristics to occur while "on the momma "and "not in the momma". The only other Gelbvieh sire that caught my eye quite like this one was KIT Urlacher: </p><p>[ATTACH=full]4203[/ATTACH]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mr. Greenjeans, post: 1680005, member: 7085"] You are correct in his bone and mass. We talk about curve benders in the field of EPD's but in this case, I first saw his mature prototype terminal sire image and was completely surprised to see his curve bending calving ease numbers: top 10% in CE, BW, and CEM. His mature shoulders originally had me concerned (I fully expected this to be listed as an issue of concern in this thread) but they seem to have manifest later in his development by the looks of his yearling photo. After using A.I. for 7 years, I have noticed that the calving ease bulls that maintain good growth are not necessarily low birth weight but actually shorter gestation length. All of the calving ease sires known for growth that I have used (KHR 47R, Pure Power, M/L Advantage, Govenor 3N) seem to have their calves arrive 7-10 days prior to the due date according to the Gelbvieh association's gestation table. All of my pasture bulls, while out of these same A.I. sire lineages, hit the due date within a day or two of the expected due dates. I wouldn't be surprised to see this fella's calves arrive a week or so early allowing the manifestation of growth characteristics to occur while "on the momma "and "not in the momma". The only other Gelbvieh sire that caught my eye quite like this one was KIT Urlacher: [ATTACH type="full" alt="page12image2483638352"]4203[/ATTACH] [/QUOTE]
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