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<blockquote data-quote="Lucky_P" data-source="post: 1006445" data-attributes="member: 12607"><p>Responded elsewhere, but will throw it out here, too - and I'm not afraid of a PM from whomever.</p><p></p><p>I'm sure the PCC cattle work well in some environments - I'm not sure they're best for yours or mine. But, you can do what you want.</p><p></p><p>I was on the 'cattle are too big' bandwagon for a while, and strongly considered using some of the PCC bulls in my breeding program. However, since I was able to get some small frame (4.0-4.5)/high $EN Angus sires - with similar below-average WW/YW epds - from ABS without incurring shipping charges, I went that route. Won't make that mistake again - I'm afraid you'll give up more than just a few inches of height - and those 2.5-4 frame bulls WILL downsize the next generation. We sure got no growth in the package, and the daughters are not panning out to be very productive cows - mature cows weighing less than 1000 lbs(or less than 900) just aren't going to cut it, here.</p><p></p><p>I'm fully into 'low-input' ranching - but my farm manager(wife) is into maximizing profit(good for me!); if my cattle were roughing it through the winter on dead, dry shortgrass pasture in eastern CO, the little PCC cattle might be the way to go. But with our winter-feeding regimen, I'm not convinced that a 900 lb cow with $EN value above +$20.00 is going to make me more money than a 1200 lb cow with a -$10.00 $EN value. Bet that 1200 lb cow will produce more than a $30 dollar difference in weaned calf value above production cost.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lucky_P, post: 1006445, member: 12607"] Responded elsewhere, but will throw it out here, too - and I'm not afraid of a PM from whomever. I'm sure the PCC cattle work well in some environments - I'm not sure they're best for yours or mine. But, you can do what you want. I was on the 'cattle are too big' bandwagon for a while, and strongly considered using some of the PCC bulls in my breeding program. However, since I was able to get some small frame (4.0-4.5)/high $EN Angus sires - with similar below-average WW/YW epds - from ABS without incurring shipping charges, I went that route. Won't make that mistake again - I'm afraid you'll give up more than just a few inches of height - and those 2.5-4 frame bulls WILL downsize the next generation. We sure got no growth in the package, and the daughters are not panning out to be very productive cows - mature cows weighing less than 1000 lbs(or less than 900) just aren't going to cut it, here. I'm fully into 'low-input' ranching - but my farm manager(wife) is into maximizing profit(good for me!); if my cattle were roughing it through the winter on dead, dry shortgrass pasture in eastern CO, the little PCC cattle might be the way to go. But with our winter-feeding regimen, I'm not convinced that a 900 lb cow with $EN value above +$20.00 is going to make me more money than a 1200 lb cow with a -$10.00 $EN value. Bet that 1200 lb cow will produce more than a $30 dollar difference in weaned calf value above production cost. [/QUOTE]
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