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<blockquote data-quote="Victoria" data-source="post: 608992" data-attributes="member: 1258"><p>In Canada the Angus Assoc. requires all bulls to have DNA test before their offspring can be registered. So a bull who is going to be used commercially would not need to be tested but for use in a purebred herd he would. They also require it for donor dams and each embryo transfer calf must be DNA tested before they can be registered. It used to be one out of every single sire flush - now starting this year it is every calf. </p><p>On top of that every 250th calf born is randomly tested. Then the dam and the calf both must be done. In this case the association pays.</p><p></p><p>I think it is a great idea. When I was a kid we bred horses and the conversation came up about how do we know that we are getting what we think we are getting. One guy was cheating a bit. He bought a few mares with great genetics but who were unable to breed. He then got some partbred put them with a pure stallion and said that they were from the great mares. He was also taking animals that had great conformation and saying they were the ones with the great pedigrees. He did this for about 5 years before he was caught. A colour showed up in one of the offsprings offspring that was not allowed by the breed. He had sold these foals for quite a bit of money and they weren't even pure. One of them by that time was a stallion who was breeding and it just became a real mess. </p><p></p><p>I like the strict testing in the CAA. These kind of testing rules help to keep people honest. I wouldn't want to pay a lot of money for a purebred bull to find out later that his calves were unregisterable because some jerk who wanted to make a fast buck did some creative paperwork.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Victoria, post: 608992, member: 1258"] In Canada the Angus Assoc. requires all bulls to have DNA test before their offspring can be registered. So a bull who is going to be used commercially would not need to be tested but for use in a purebred herd he would. They also require it for donor dams and each embryo transfer calf must be DNA tested before they can be registered. It used to be one out of every single sire flush - now starting this year it is every calf. On top of that every 250th calf born is randomly tested. Then the dam and the calf both must be done. In this case the association pays. I think it is a great idea. When I was a kid we bred horses and the conversation came up about how do we know that we are getting what we think we are getting. One guy was cheating a bit. He bought a few mares with great genetics but who were unable to breed. He then got some partbred put them with a pure stallion and said that they were from the great mares. He was also taking animals that had great conformation and saying they were the ones with the great pedigrees. He did this for about 5 years before he was caught. A colour showed up in one of the offsprings offspring that was not allowed by the breed. He had sold these foals for quite a bit of money and they weren't even pure. One of them by that time was a stallion who was breeding and it just became a real mess. I like the strict testing in the CAA. These kind of testing rules help to keep people honest. I wouldn't want to pay a lot of money for a purebred bull to find out later that his calves were unregisterable because some jerk who wanted to make a fast buck did some creative paperwork. [/QUOTE]
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