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<blockquote data-quote="stocky" data-source="post: 961486" data-attributes="member: 1150"><p>FSR, Glad you were able to get some help. </p><p>A couple of things: </p><p> First, the seller buys insurance. To say the barn carries it, makes it sound like they are doing something. The seller is charged an insurance premium for every animal. It covers the animal from the time it is loaded at the farm until it is loaded onto the truck to leave the sale barn after it is sold. The charge for insurance is listed on your check stub under the deductions.</p><p> Second, if your animal had been crippled when you unloaded it, they would have noted it on your check-in receipt. When it came in the ring crippled, it had been injured and they should have sold it "as is" and the buyer gets it for that price. Then, they should have taken that day's typical price for that calf, and add insurance money to make up the difference and you get your full amount. Many of the barns will not do this unless the seller is there to bring it to their attention. </p><p> The barns do not like to use the insurance unless they are forced into it. One reason, they don't want to look like they are not taking care of the animals. If they use insurance an unusual amount of times, there can be suspicion or some investigation. So, they try to save the "insurance cases" for their own cattle or those of their special customers.</p><p> I have written some long posts on buying and selling cattle at a sales barn, so I won't bore you with that. However, I am very happy you were able to get the information and the help from this barn that satisfied you. </p><p> I would only give you the advice that at this particular barn, make sure you get very clear what will happen from the rep you deal with in the future. That way there will be no confusion in the argument later if it does not happen that way. I can give you countless stories of why no one in my area will take any cattle to that barn again. </p><p> My only two experiences each involved selling over 100 head each time. Things like "get them there by 11am and they will sell by 1pm", then they sell at 10pm, and the owner saying what price he will set them in at on Sunday and on Monday they bring from 15-25 dollars per hundred less caused me to say I would never set foot in that barn again. Also, several thousand head each year left that barn to go to another barn when mine did, so the arrogance and misleading and mishandling has been a very expensive loss for that barn when you figure the total number of head lost to another barn over the years.</p><p> Several years ago, the owner from that barn, sent the "rep" for my area to me and he begged me for another chance at my cattle. I reminded him what the owner had done the last time and I told him I now sold through honest people and was not interested. He began to tell me how much they wanted me back, so I showed him a group of calves that were standing across the fence that were second quality calves. I asked him how much behind my other calves would those calves sell? He said they would run those calves in together and get the same as my top end calves. I told him that he and I both knew that was not true. I told him those calves were going to be 15 dollars per hundred behind my top calves and he argued they would not be.</p><p> I told him to get the owner on the phone, right now, and ask him what the price would be. He got him on the phone, and asked him what they would bring and the owner told him they would be 15 dollars under my top calves. After he hung up, I shook my head and told him do not ever come asking to look at my calves again and tell the owner not to send anyone else begging for my cattle. Shortly after that, he was moved to a paperwork position and was no longer a rep.</p><p> I apologize for getting into a small part of my experience with that barn, but even, after so many years, I still get very angry when I think of it, as do most of my neighbors with their experiences, there.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="stocky, post: 961486, member: 1150"] FSR, Glad you were able to get some help. A couple of things: First, the seller buys insurance. To say the barn carries it, makes it sound like they are doing something. The seller is charged an insurance premium for every animal. It covers the animal from the time it is loaded at the farm until it is loaded onto the truck to leave the sale barn after it is sold. The charge for insurance is listed on your check stub under the deductions. Second, if your animal had been crippled when you unloaded it, they would have noted it on your check-in receipt. When it came in the ring crippled, it had been injured and they should have sold it "as is" and the buyer gets it for that price. Then, they should have taken that day's typical price for that calf, and add insurance money to make up the difference and you get your full amount. Many of the barns will not do this unless the seller is there to bring it to their attention. The barns do not like to use the insurance unless they are forced into it. One reason, they don't want to look like they are not taking care of the animals. If they use insurance an unusual amount of times, there can be suspicion or some investigation. So, they try to save the "insurance cases" for their own cattle or those of their special customers. I have written some long posts on buying and selling cattle at a sales barn, so I won't bore you with that. However, I am very happy you were able to get the information and the help from this barn that satisfied you. I would only give you the advice that at this particular barn, make sure you get very clear what will happen from the rep you deal with in the future. That way there will be no confusion in the argument later if it does not happen that way. I can give you countless stories of why no one in my area will take any cattle to that barn again. My only two experiences each involved selling over 100 head each time. Things like "get them there by 11am and they will sell by 1pm", then they sell at 10pm, and the owner saying what price he will set them in at on Sunday and on Monday they bring from 15-25 dollars per hundred less caused me to say I would never set foot in that barn again. Also, several thousand head each year left that barn to go to another barn when mine did, so the arrogance and misleading and mishandling has been a very expensive loss for that barn when you figure the total number of head lost to another barn over the years. Several years ago, the owner from that barn, sent the "rep" for my area to me and he begged me for another chance at my cattle. I reminded him what the owner had done the last time and I told him I now sold through honest people and was not interested. He began to tell me how much they wanted me back, so I showed him a group of calves that were standing across the fence that were second quality calves. I asked him how much behind my other calves would those calves sell? He said they would run those calves in together and get the same as my top end calves. I told him that he and I both knew that was not true. I told him those calves were going to be 15 dollars per hundred behind my top calves and he argued they would not be. I told him to get the owner on the phone, right now, and ask him what the price would be. He got him on the phone, and asked him what they would bring and the owner told him they would be 15 dollars under my top calves. After he hung up, I shook my head and told him do not ever come asking to look at my calves again and tell the owner not to send anyone else begging for my cattle. Shortly after that, he was moved to a paperwork position and was no longer a rep. I apologize for getting into a small part of my experience with that barn, but even, after so many years, I still get very angry when I think of it, as do most of my neighbors with their experiences, there. [/QUOTE]
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