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<blockquote data-quote="Lee VanRoss" data-source="post: 1783740" data-attributes="member: 40072"><p>I was string jerking.... But that aside I have one experience with Charolais. I had just acquired this 80 with a decent fence on one end and side.</p><p>The other end was an old woven hog wire with a barb or two that I had driven some steels in and tied up with wire, no stock on that side so I</p><p>figured it would do for a while. The front road side had a good 2 and maybe half a wire with a post every now and then but there was a big</p><p>gorge to slow them down that had water and a lot of grass so figured I could stab a fence along the front before they went on the dirt road.</p><p>I'm thinking it was 21 or 22 head of 550 weight heifers early May. Let them in on the back side and they never stopped until they hit the road!</p><p>My religious conversion must have started about that time because they turned around and ran back down in the gorge and stayed there until</p><p>I got the fence up in shape. I concocted a corral from planks and spikes in some willow trees and while not pretty was quite adequate.</p><p>They were to put it mildly wild as h_LL . but for some reason liked the willows and corral. Every time you went near them they would tear ass</p><p>for the corral. They did me OK buy I never hankered for another one. My project now (since 08) is trying to turn a black brown muzzle</p><p>Corriente into a 15/16 red & white spotted Red Angus which I did last spring. A bull calf which I cut. I can get spots up to 3/4 then they tend</p><p>to go solid black or red at 7/8. After 7/8 so far has yielded a calf that favored the mother. Which means only one 7/8 spotted so far.</p><p>Once I get to 3/4 the steers will get to around 900 at eleven months to a year with the heifers proportionately less. That is feeding a 3% ration</p><p>of distillers,, ground cobs and mediocre hay. </p><p>What I think is noteworthy and I never expected it in the beginning but the last of the purebred RA will most likely go this year. They cannot</p><p>compete with the Corriente crosses in longevity especially involving feet and hips and calving on time every year. Now I was not happy with the</p><p>calf this spring as I consider it unsatisfactory. Regardless of color it will never grade and yield. There is no incestual breeding but is a 1st calf</p><p>with a different bull on line for the new year from a different bloodline. I was never set up for it due to the lack of scale but if I were to do it over.</p><p>I would start with half bloods to save not having that first narrow ass generation. Would I want a herd of spotted Angus? NO.</p><p>Would I like to say, "I did that." Yes. Do I care what someone else does? I think Red Angus / Charolais cross has all the advantages</p><p>of a bolt action shotgun at a skeet match. (you're welcome)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lee VanRoss, post: 1783740, member: 40072"] I was string jerking.... But that aside I have one experience with Charolais. I had just acquired this 80 with a decent fence on one end and side. The other end was an old woven hog wire with a barb or two that I had driven some steels in and tied up with wire, no stock on that side so I figured it would do for a while. The front road side had a good 2 and maybe half a wire with a post every now and then but there was a big gorge to slow them down that had water and a lot of grass so figured I could stab a fence along the front before they went on the dirt road. I'm thinking it was 21 or 22 head of 550 weight heifers early May. Let them in on the back side and they never stopped until they hit the road! My religious conversion must have started about that time because they turned around and ran back down in the gorge and stayed there until I got the fence up in shape. I concocted a corral from planks and spikes in some willow trees and while not pretty was quite adequate. They were to put it mildly wild as h_LL . but for some reason liked the willows and corral. Every time you went near them they would tear ass for the corral. They did me OK buy I never hankered for another one. My project now (since 08) is trying to turn a black brown muzzle Corriente into a 15/16 red & white spotted Red Angus which I did last spring. A bull calf which I cut. I can get spots up to 3/4 then they tend to go solid black or red at 7/8. After 7/8 so far has yielded a calf that favored the mother. Which means only one 7/8 spotted so far. Once I get to 3/4 the steers will get to around 900 at eleven months to a year with the heifers proportionately less. That is feeding a 3% ration of distillers,, ground cobs and mediocre hay. What I think is noteworthy and I never expected it in the beginning but the last of the purebred RA will most likely go this year. They cannot compete with the Corriente crosses in longevity especially involving feet and hips and calving on time every year. Now I was not happy with the calf this spring as I consider it unsatisfactory. Regardless of color it will never grade and yield. There is no incestual breeding but is a 1st calf with a different bull on line for the new year from a different bloodline. I was never set up for it due to the lack of scale but if I were to do it over. I would start with half bloods to save not having that first narrow ass generation. Would I want a herd of spotted Angus? NO. Would I like to say, "I did that." Yes. Do I care what someone else does? I think Red Angus / Charolais cross has all the advantages of a bolt action shotgun at a skeet match. (you're welcome) [/QUOTE]
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