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<blockquote data-quote="Chuckie" data-source="post: 777078" data-attributes="member: 637"><p>VLS_GUY</p><p>There are several bulls on the Gerrard, High Bluff, and Rolling D sites that are super nice. </p><p>I think if someone wanted to start a program of cross breeding to get the the weights up on</p><p>their calves to sell, there are definitely bulls here to choose from. </p><p></p><p>The bulls I like are: Marshall, Polunlt 710F, and Crossroads. Taking a </p><p>quick look at them, they had the muscle and neck, heartgirth, that I like. Crossroads could have used </p><p>more rump, but he looked to be in breeding condition. His rump needs to be rounded more and tie in to his leg lower toward his hock. He had tremendous muscleing and it looks great. I enjoy looking at</p><p>him, even if he is not perfect. No bull is perfect. I do like the red Simmies,the solid red one is</p><p>muscled really well. The top one is nice also. Hank does have a lot of muscle. He has a heck of a neck.</p><p>The only thing I can say about Hank is that I would want him to have a deeper barrel. If he had Crossroads </p><p>heartgirth, he would be cooking. He needs to be deeper in the flanks. And I would want his rump to round off more and tie down deeper into his gaskin muslce, or just above his hock. </p><p></p><p>But I cannot say that any of these bulls are nicer than the bull posted here.</p><p></p><p>I am going to repeat what I think I read in an article. If I am not getting this right, correct me. It </p><p>has been a couple of years since I have read it. My memory is thin. </p><p></p><p>In all of my reading, so this is not from my experience, but I think the article Said that you will</p><p>get the highest weights by cross breeding three different breeds. From the way I understood it,You</p><p>must use full blood animals to gain the genetic make up to do this. It can be done by using a Charolais </p><p>bull and a first generation cow from a full blooded (e.g.)Senepol/Red Angus. I have no idea on that cross!!!</p><p>Then from those three, you are supposed to get a full bodied high weight calf for market. </p><p> </p><p>If you start keeping the three way crosses, 2nd, and 3rd generation calves for replacements, you will </p><p>start losing weight as compared to those as a 1st generation three way cross. It starts watering down </p><p>the genetics. You must always use the fresh genetics of each breed. Such as, Charolais bull with a calf from a 1st </p><p>generation cross of Senepol/(Breed of your choice) this would give you the higest weights.</p><p></p><p>Doc Harris can explain this to me for sure if he is reading the forum. </p><p></p><p>Chuckie</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chuckie, post: 777078, member: 637"] VLS_GUY There are several bulls on the Gerrard, High Bluff, and Rolling D sites that are super nice. I think if someone wanted to start a program of cross breeding to get the the weights up on their calves to sell, there are definitely bulls here to choose from. The bulls I like are: Marshall, Polunlt 710F, and Crossroads. Taking a quick look at them, they had the muscle and neck, heartgirth, that I like. Crossroads could have used more rump, but he looked to be in breeding condition. His rump needs to be rounded more and tie in to his leg lower toward his hock. He had tremendous muscleing and it looks great. I enjoy looking at him, even if he is not perfect. No bull is perfect. I do like the red Simmies,the solid red one is muscled really well. The top one is nice also. Hank does have a lot of muscle. He has a heck of a neck. The only thing I can say about Hank is that I would want him to have a deeper barrel. If he had Crossroads heartgirth, he would be cooking. He needs to be deeper in the flanks. And I would want his rump to round off more and tie down deeper into his gaskin muslce, or just above his hock. But I cannot say that any of these bulls are nicer than the bull posted here. I am going to repeat what I think I read in an article. If I am not getting this right, correct me. It has been a couple of years since I have read it. My memory is thin. In all of my reading, so this is not from my experience, but I think the article Said that you will get the highest weights by cross breeding three different breeds. From the way I understood it,You must use full blood animals to gain the genetic make up to do this. It can be done by using a Charolais bull and a first generation cow from a full blooded (e.g.)Senepol/Red Angus. I have no idea on that cross!!! Then from those three, you are supposed to get a full bodied high weight calf for market. If you start keeping the three way crosses, 2nd, and 3rd generation calves for replacements, you will start losing weight as compared to those as a 1st generation three way cross. It starts watering down the genetics. You must always use the fresh genetics of each breed. Such as, Charolais bull with a calf from a 1st generation cross of Senepol/(Breed of your choice) this would give you the higest weights. Doc Harris can explain this to me for sure if he is reading the forum. Chuckie [/QUOTE]
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