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<blockquote data-quote="Warren Allison" data-source="post: 1771879" data-attributes="member: 40587"><p>That reminds me. I was out there talking to Dan yesterday. We were talking about how Charolais had changed a lot from the cow-killers of 50 years ago. I told him I made a vow in about 1972 to never, ever have anything to do with a Char or Simmental bull. I told him I liked the Char and the original red & white Simmental <em>cows </em>we had back then. Those were big ole red & white cows, and looked like a dual purpose or maybe a dairy cow that was not commercially milked. Big bags with plenty of milk for their big calves. I said I hadn't seen any like that in decades. He told me to get in the Gator..that he wanted to show me something. He said that years ago, he had gotten some semen from an old type Simm bull. He called it a Flicka or Flecker or something like that. Anyhow, they bred some of their Brown Swiss/Braunviehs with it, and got some 1/2 Simm 1/4 BS 1/4 Brau recip cows. We went over to their pasture and there were six that were gonna calve in December. Looked just like the Simmentals I remember. with very nice looking udders. 2 of them were daughters of the BS/Braun cow I bought. He said the oldest was 8 and the youngest was 5. I asked him if they were gonna sell these, and he said not for a few years. He said he had some of that semen in the tank and If I wanted some cows like that, we would AI some of mine with it. I told him no, let's just stick to the original plan with the Brahma. However, I been thinking on it this morning, about maybe doing half of them with this Simm. I'd have 8 half Brahma and 8 half red & white old timey Simms. But, these cows are going to live in south Ga 3 and a half hours for me, so doubt I will be around when they calve. Dan said they didn't have to assist with any of these 6 half Simms, though. Hell, I dunno. What do all of y'all think a half Braun, half "Flicka" Simmental heifer would be worth? More than a half brahma?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Warren Allison, post: 1771879, member: 40587"] That reminds me. I was out there talking to Dan yesterday. We were talking about how Charolais had changed a lot from the cow-killers of 50 years ago. I told him I made a vow in about 1972 to never, ever have anything to do with a Char or Simmental bull. I told him I liked the Char and the original red & white Simmental [I]cows [/I]we had back then. Those were big ole red & white cows, and looked like a dual purpose or maybe a dairy cow that was not commercially milked. Big bags with plenty of milk for their big calves. I said I hadn't seen any like that in decades. He told me to get in the Gator..that he wanted to show me something. He said that years ago, he had gotten some semen from an old type Simm bull. He called it a Flicka or Flecker or something like that. Anyhow, they bred some of their Brown Swiss/Braunviehs with it, and got some 1/2 Simm 1/4 BS 1/4 Brau recip cows. We went over to their pasture and there were six that were gonna calve in December. Looked just like the Simmentals I remember. with very nice looking udders. 2 of them were daughters of the BS/Braun cow I bought. He said the oldest was 8 and the youngest was 5. I asked him if they were gonna sell these, and he said not for a few years. He said he had some of that semen in the tank and If I wanted some cows like that, we would AI some of mine with it. I told him no, let's just stick to the original plan with the Brahma. However, I been thinking on it this morning, about maybe doing half of them with this Simm. I'd have 8 half Brahma and 8 half red & white old timey Simms. But, these cows are going to live in south Ga 3 and a half hours for me, so doubt I will be around when they calve. Dan said they didn't have to assist with any of these 6 half Simms, though. Hell, I dunno. What do all of y'all think a half Braun, half "Flicka" Simmental heifer would be worth? More than a half brahma? [/QUOTE]
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