Menu
Forums
New posts
Search forums
What's new
New posts
New media
New media comments
New profile posts
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Members
Current visitors
New profile posts
Search profile posts
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles and first posts only
Search titles only
By:
New posts
Search forums
Menu
Log in
Register
Forums
Cattle Boards
Breeding / Calving Issues
Only 64 days left till he's weaned.
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Help Support CattleToday:
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Bright Raven" data-source="post: 1568605" data-attributes="member: 27490"><p>Ebenezer, let's assume the breeding practices you dedicate most of your posts to will give the best results. That plowing in the same old field of "stagnant genetics" will produce the best cow. That we should study Bonsma's methods and "eyeball" our cattle, measure performance and keep those that measure up to par and concentrate those genetics in our herd and in the breed. I know. I know. I am simplifying your concepts but you and others know what I mean.</p><p></p><p>I suppose there are breeders hidden out on the farm and living a reclusive life "out of sight and out of mind" plowing through their stagnant genetic pool to isolate the perfect cow genome. I guess I missed them. Or maybe they are a vanishing "breed of breeder".</p><p></p><p>I am most familiar with the Simmental breeders in Kentucky. None of the ones I am familiar with remain in hiding on their farms standing in the pasture all day looking for "Bonsma" characteristics and plowing the same old field of stagnant genetics year after year. That has not been the practices they have used to reach the pinnacle of their vocation.</p><p></p><p>Let me give you an example. The Genetics Advantage Sale (Simmental) is Saturday at Paris, KY. Several of the Users will be there. We have been discussing the fact that of the bred heifer lots listed in the catalog - 75% of them are bred to Cowboy Cut. Most of the bulls and heifers are recent genetics. What you label as "Bull of the Month Club" genetics.</p><p></p><p>Now, you are probably correct that all these major breed sales are commotion and promotion. But I have to say, if I look at the Simmental Breeders - The Rocking P, Maple Leaf Farm, Owens Brothers, Simme Valley, Fire Sweep Simmentals, etc - they are using fresh and promising genetics. Seems to me that the downside to being right, as you are, means being left behind as a lonely recluse. With the exception that you keep saying you have made lots of friends.</p><p></p><p>I am not as familiar with Angus Breeders but the most noteworthy ones seem to employ the freshest genetics. They don't seem to be plowing these stagnant genetic pools for 50 to 75 years to meet the needs of their customers.</p><p></p><p>You get to be RIGHT but you don't seem to get to be part of the "in crowd". And at least in the Simmental breed, you don't get to be a leader.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bright Raven, post: 1568605, member: 27490"] Ebenezer, let's assume the breeding practices you dedicate most of your posts to will give the best results. That plowing in the same old field of "stagnant genetics" will produce the best cow. That we should study Bonsma's methods and "eyeball" our cattle, measure performance and keep those that measure up to par and concentrate those genetics in our herd and in the breed. I know. I know. I am simplifying your concepts but you and others know what I mean. I suppose there are breeders hidden out on the farm and living a reclusive life "out of sight and out of mind" plowing through their stagnant genetic pool to isolate the perfect cow genome. I guess I missed them. Or maybe they are a vanishing "breed of breeder". I am most familiar with the Simmental breeders in Kentucky. None of the ones I am familiar with remain in hiding on their farms standing in the pasture all day looking for "Bonsma" characteristics and plowing the same old field of stagnant genetics year after year. That has not been the practices they have used to reach the pinnacle of their vocation. Let me give you an example. The Genetics Advantage Sale (Simmental) is Saturday at Paris, KY. Several of the Users will be there. We have been discussing the fact that of the bred heifer lots listed in the catalog - 75% of them are bred to Cowboy Cut. Most of the bulls and heifers are recent genetics. What you label as "Bull of the Month Club" genetics. Now, you are probably correct that all these major breed sales are commotion and promotion. But I have to say, if I look at the Simmental Breeders - The Rocking P, Maple Leaf Farm, Owens Brothers, Simme Valley, Fire Sweep Simmentals, etc - they are using fresh and promising genetics. Seems to me that the downside to being right, as you are, means being left behind as a lonely recluse. With the exception that you keep saying you have made lots of friends. I am not as familiar with Angus Breeders but the most noteworthy ones seem to employ the freshest genetics. They don't seem to be plowing these stagnant genetic pools for 50 to 75 years to meet the needs of their customers. You get to be RIGHT but you don't seem to get to be part of the "in crowd". And at least in the Simmental breed, you don't get to be a leader. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Forums
Cattle Boards
Breeding / Calving Issues
Only 64 days left till he's weaned.
Top