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<blockquote data-quote="Alberta farmer" data-source="post: 619803" data-attributes="member: 8978"><p>I don't have a crystal ball or something to tell how Barrack Obama will handle trade with Canada. Often what a candidate says and what he actually does are two different things? Bill Clinton sounded pretty protectionist...until he got into the White House and then he turned into a real free trader...much better than Bush!</p><p>Maybe you guys in America didn't hear about the big scandal this summer when BO was talking pretty tough about tearing up NAFTA in Michigan? Canada was a little concerned and Prime minister Harper made a statement about how that was an irresponsible thing to say and if he proceeded there was a few things we might need to renegotiate?</p><p>The "scandal" was because some Canadian aide leaked the fact that a representative for Obama assured the Canadian government that this was just campaign rhetoric for the peasants!</p><p>The fact is trade between Canada and USA is huge and an advantage for both countries. There is no way either country is going to risk losing this agreement over a bunch of cows! There is a dispute mechanism for trade issues. Now obviously our government caved on the soft wood lumber thing and that was a result of a weak Canadian government.</p><p>I suspect the ruling Canadian government will get the boot within the next year(might be as soon as Jan 27/09) and we will have a new government...probably a lot tougher on trade issues!</p><p>In Canada we are reducing the cowherd in a big way. By next year we could be approaching domestic use only...no need to export. I guess we won't need to worry about MCOOL then?</p><p>I wonder how the American feedlots feel about MCOOL? How about those Texas feed lots that relied on Mexican cattle? How about those Washington packers that need Canadian cattle? How about those mid west hog barns that imported Canadian weaner pigs?</p><p>Somebody always loses with protectionism. Maybe the American cattleman is winning now that you've got Canadian cattle out of your country? Are you getting rich in the cattle business? </p><p>I don't know how close any of you guys follow what we are doing up here in Alberta, but on Jan. 1st/2009 it became mandatory to have premise ID, a fully traceable RFID ear tag, and age verification. Only in Alberta though, but this will mean that any cattle coming here to be grassed, fed, or slaughtered will have to be able to comply. The writing is on the wall...eventually this will become a Canada wide requirement.</p><p>Now under NAFTA we don't have to accept any product that is below our standards from our trading partners, so effectively we can block all US beef. We might need to use this if we go to all domestic consumption?</p><p>Bottom line do you see how silly this whole trade game is? We should be tearing down trade walls, not building new ones.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Alberta farmer, post: 619803, member: 8978"] I don't have a crystal ball or something to tell how Barrack Obama will handle trade with Canada. Often what a candidate says and what he actually does are two different things? Bill Clinton sounded pretty protectionist...until he got into the White House and then he turned into a real free trader...much better than Bush! Maybe you guys in America didn't hear about the big scandal this summer when BO was talking pretty tough about tearing up NAFTA in Michigan? Canada was a little concerned and Prime minister Harper made a statement about how that was an irresponsible thing to say and if he proceeded there was a few things we might need to renegotiate? The "scandal" was because some Canadian aide leaked the fact that a representative for Obama assured the Canadian government that this was just campaign rhetoric for the peasants! The fact is trade between Canada and USA is huge and an advantage for both countries. There is no way either country is going to risk losing this agreement over a bunch of cows! There is a dispute mechanism for trade issues. Now obviously our government caved on the soft wood lumber thing and that was a result of a weak Canadian government. I suspect the ruling Canadian government will get the boot within the next year(might be as soon as Jan 27/09) and we will have a new government...probably a lot tougher on trade issues! In Canada we are reducing the cowherd in a big way. By next year we could be approaching domestic use only...no need to export. I guess we won't need to worry about MCOOL then? I wonder how the American feedlots feel about MCOOL? How about those Texas feed lots that relied on Mexican cattle? How about those Washington packers that need Canadian cattle? How about those mid west hog barns that imported Canadian weaner pigs? Somebody always loses with protectionism. Maybe the American cattleman is winning now that you've got Canadian cattle out of your country? Are you getting rich in the cattle business? I don't know how close any of you guys follow what we are doing up here in Alberta, but on Jan. 1st/2009 it became mandatory to have premise ID, a fully traceable RFID ear tag, and age verification. Only in Alberta though, but this will mean that any cattle coming here to be grassed, fed, or slaughtered will have to be able to comply. The writing is on the wall...eventually this will become a Canada wide requirement. Now under NAFTA we don't have to accept any product that is below our standards from our trading partners, so effectively we can block all US beef. We might need to use this if we go to all domestic consumption? Bottom line do you see how silly this whole trade game is? We should be tearing down trade walls, not building new ones. [/QUOTE]
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