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<blockquote data-quote="DOC HARRIS" data-source="post: 522476" data-attributes="member: 1683"><p>[quusedote="angus9259"]The numbers look good, but I've purposefully not used him simply because I don't like the way he looks. How's that for scientific? :lol: Too thin framed and seemingly way light in the rear. Bottom line, there are a lot of great bulls with great numbers that look great too - Mytty for example and a lot of the stuff coming out of SAV with new, easier to manage CEDs.</p></blockquote><p>angus9259-</p><p></p><p>The opinions expressed on SS Objective T510 OT26 are demonstrative of what I have said about judging ANY animal from JUST a picture - particularly a single, one view picture. The ABS picture of this bull is disgraceful! The posters on this thread have demonstrated that the breeders who have <em>USED</em> him in their breeding programs - have NO complaints and like him fine!</p><p></p><p>As you yourself have said - on THIS post - you have ". . .purposefullly not used him simply because I don't like the way he looks. How's that for scientific?" Well - it <strong><em>isn't</em></strong> scientific OR even very knowledgeable! The statistics on him from both ABS and the breeders who use him refute the justifications and the basis for substantive bias which most of the "non-users" here are professing. In My Opinion - the premises they are using are flawed - in principle and in reality. </p><p></p><p>IF I were going to select a bull on the basis of a picture ONLY, I certainly would NOT even give a second look at S S Objective T510 OT26. To me, that picture SCREAMS "FUNNEL BUTT - FUNNEL BUTT!" But, apparently, <strong><em>LOOKS CAN BE DECEIVING!</em></strong> - which justifies using ALL of the tools available for Bull Selection when 'betting' on the future of your cattle business!</p><p></p><p>Everything considered, S S Objective T510 OT26 is a much more desirable breeding bull than his one picture on ABS advertising would suggest or indicate. My recommendation would be - Use EVERYTHING possible at your disposal when selecting ANY animal that you are going to incorporate into a breeding herd - including opinions of those who may not have a clue, but just a bias - and THEN, when your questions have been answered to YOUR satisfaction, and you have analysed what a Bull may do for the genetics of YOUR cows, you are in a dominate position of making a CONSIDERED decision - and no one ELSE to blame for your making a wrong choice - if indeed you do make one. At least, you will know WHY the matings did not work out as expected, and you have a good foundation for correcting your next hypothesis.</p><p></p><p>Frankly, I like SS Objective T510 OT26! And his sire. And his Grandsire. And a whole lot of his half-brothers!</p><p></p><p>DOC HARRIS</p><p>[/QUOTE]</p>
[QUOTE="DOC HARRIS, post: 522476, member: 1683"] [quused[b][b][/b][/b]ote="angus9259"]The numbers look good, but I've purposefully not used him simply because I don't like the way he looks. How's that for scientific? :lol: Too thin framed and seemingly way light in the rear. Bottom line, there are a lot of great bulls with great numbers that look great too - Mytty for example and a lot of the stuff coming out of SAV with new, easier to manage CEDs.[/quote]angus9259- The opinions expressed on SS Objective T510 OT26 are demonstrative of what I have said about judging ANY animal from JUST a picture - particularly a single, one view picture. The ABS picture of this bull is disgraceful! The posters on this thread have demonstrated that the breeders who have [i]USED[/i] him in their breeding programs - have NO complaints and like him fine! As you yourself have said - on THIS post - you have ". . .purposefullly not used him simply because I don't like the way he looks. How's that for scientific?" Well - it [b][i]isn't[/i][/b] scientific OR even very knowledgeable! The statistics on him from both ABS and the breeders who use him refute the justifications and the basis for substantive bias which most of the "non-users" here are professing. In My Opinion - the premises they are using are flawed - in principle and in reality. IF I were going to select a bull on the basis of a picture ONLY, I certainly would NOT even give a second look at S S Objective T510 OT26. To me, that picture SCREAMS "FUNNEL BUTT - FUNNEL BUTT!" But, apparently, [b][i]LOOKS CAN BE DECEIVING![/i][/b] - which justifies using ALL of the tools available for Bull Selection when 'betting' on the future of your cattle business! Everything considered, S S Objective T510 OT26 is a much more desirable breeding bull than his one picture on ABS advertising would suggest or indicate. My recommendation would be - Use EVERYTHING possible at your disposal when selecting ANY animal that you are going to incorporate into a breeding herd - including opinions of those who may not have a clue, but just a bias - and THEN, when your questions have been answered to YOUR satisfaction, and you have analysed what a Bull may do for the genetics of YOUR cows, you are in a dominate position of making a CONSIDERED decision - and no one ELSE to blame for your making a wrong choice - if indeed you do make one. At least, you will know WHY the matings did not work out as expected, and you have a good foundation for correcting your next hypothesis. Frankly, I like SS Objective T510 OT26! And his sire. And his Grandsire. And a whole lot of his half-brothers! DOC HARRIS [/QUOTE]
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