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<blockquote data-quote="simme" data-source="post: 1652455" data-attributes="member: 40418"><p>Here the non-ethanol gasoline tends to be the high octane version due to demand for high octane for boat engines (we are near a large lake with lots of boats). Some stations have both 87 and high octane non-ethanol, but that requires additional tanks and pumps that most probably can't justify for the limited demand for non-ethanol.</p><p></p><p>As far as ethanol in diesel, I had never heard of that. Here the diesel MAY have bio-diesel added which is oil/fuel from soybeans or vegetable oil. Mix may be 5 to 20% bio-diesel. Rumor is that low temperature gelling is more of a problem with the bio-diesel.</p><p></p><p>Ethanol is an alcohol. Mostly made from corn in the US. Made from sugarcane in most other countries. It tends to eat away (corrode) steel tubing and plastic/rubber components (flex hoses, seals, etc) As an alcohol, it also likes to combine with water from the moisture in the air. Which then further rusts metal components and also is a food source for fungus and molds in the fuel system which ends up plugging up the system.</p><p></p><p>Originally, lead was used as an octane booster in gasoline. Remember when we had regular and unleaded? Lead was determined to be a health hazard. Then a chemical MTBE was used. It was found to be getting into ground water and underground aquifers. And also a health hazard. Now, ethanol is used. There have been tax incentives for years to produce and use ethanol. These keep getting renewed. So, we are paying (through tax credit to companies) for the privilege to have this ethanol and then also paying (through higher prices per gallon) if we use gasoline that does not have ethanol. So, more corn goes to ethanol production and less corn to animal feed. The animals end up getting the byproducts from ethanol production.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="simme, post: 1652455, member: 40418"] Here the non-ethanol gasoline tends to be the high octane version due to demand for high octane for boat engines (we are near a large lake with lots of boats). Some stations have both 87 and high octane non-ethanol, but that requires additional tanks and pumps that most probably can't justify for the limited demand for non-ethanol. As far as ethanol in diesel, I had never heard of that. Here the diesel MAY have bio-diesel added which is oil/fuel from soybeans or vegetable oil. Mix may be 5 to 20% bio-diesel. Rumor is that low temperature gelling is more of a problem with the bio-diesel. Ethanol is an alcohol. Mostly made from corn in the US. Made from sugarcane in most other countries. It tends to eat away (corrode) steel tubing and plastic/rubber components (flex hoses, seals, etc) As an alcohol, it also likes to combine with water from the moisture in the air. Which then further rusts metal components and also is a food source for fungus and molds in the fuel system which ends up plugging up the system. Originally, lead was used as an octane booster in gasoline. Remember when we had regular and unleaded? Lead was determined to be a health hazard. Then a chemical MTBE was used. It was found to be getting into ground water and underground aquifers. And also a health hazard. Now, ethanol is used. There have been tax incentives for years to produce and use ethanol. These keep getting renewed. So, we are paying (through tax credit to companies) for the privilege to have this ethanol and then also paying (through higher prices per gallon) if we use gasoline that does not have ethanol. So, more corn goes to ethanol production and less corn to animal feed. The animals end up getting the byproducts from ethanol production. [/QUOTE]
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