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<blockquote data-quote="Phil in Tupelo" data-source="post: 576919" data-attributes="member: 1425"><p>Several good comments and thoughts, but no one seemed to mention Ph and liming. I for one know my pastures need lime to bring the ph up so that any fertilizer paid for and applied to the land will be completely used by the forage. Someone posted a URL last week that indicated the % of fertilizer not used when ph was too low up to a ph of 7 with fertilizer utililzed 100%. If your ph isn't where it needs to be lime may be to most sensible imput.</p><p></p><p>Also drought has gotten a lot of attention and the thing that has come out of that is to decrease stocking rates. In my area 2 acres to the cow/calf unit would be the norm. When drought hits that may need to be adjusted to 3 acres and up per cow/calf unit. It would seems that maybe a possible way to deal with high fertilizer is to adjust stocking rates to more acres per unit, at least until more study/consideration can be used to determine the next reasonable move. </p><p></p><p>As my neighbor indicated this week, that after about 8 inches of rain in August, he is looking at some of the best pastures he's seen in his 50 plus years. I have put out 1 ton of lime per acre two years ago and then skipped one year and put about 1 1/2 tons to 2 tons per acre this year. Add the 8 inches of rain to that and the pastures look good.</p><p></p><p>If you really want to kill a good stand of most any kind of forage, just cut hay and don't replace any NPK with fertilizer. When the cold weather hits in Jan/Feb you can forget any grass in April.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Phil in Tupelo, post: 576919, member: 1425"] Several good comments and thoughts, but no one seemed to mention Ph and liming. I for one know my pastures need lime to bring the ph up so that any fertilizer paid for and applied to the land will be completely used by the forage. Someone posted a URL last week that indicated the % of fertilizer not used when ph was too low up to a ph of 7 with fertilizer utililzed 100%. If your ph isn't where it needs to be lime may be to most sensible imput. Also drought has gotten a lot of attention and the thing that has come out of that is to decrease stocking rates. In my area 2 acres to the cow/calf unit would be the norm. When drought hits that may need to be adjusted to 3 acres and up per cow/calf unit. It would seems that maybe a possible way to deal with high fertilizer is to adjust stocking rates to more acres per unit, at least until more study/consideration can be used to determine the next reasonable move. As my neighbor indicated this week, that after about 8 inches of rain in August, he is looking at some of the best pastures he's seen in his 50 plus years. I have put out 1 ton of lime per acre two years ago and then skipped one year and put about 1 1/2 tons to 2 tons per acre this year. Add the 8 inches of rain to that and the pastures look good. If you really want to kill a good stand of most any kind of forage, just cut hay and don't replace any NPK with fertilizer. When the cold weather hits in Jan/Feb you can forget any grass in April. [/QUOTE]
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