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<blockquote data-quote="boondocks" data-source="post: 1524556" data-attributes="member: 20599"><p>In terms of jobs and immigration, I think we are basically "exporting" jobs, just reversing locations of job/employee. The net effect is that real wages for low-skilled labor are kept down: if 2 dairy farmers in a county hire illegal immigrants, how can the other two pay a higher wage (to legal residents) and still compete to sell milk to the big buyers? It's like drugs in the Tour de France, or MLB: a race to the bottom (if a few do it, everyone else must also or face elimination). Body builders solved the problem by instituting a separate system of competitions for "natural" (drug-tested) bodybuilders.</p><p>Also: employers of illegal immigrants often steal wages etc., knowing that the employee can't complain. This is exploitative and in some cases amounts to an underground system approaching chattel slavery for the most wretched.</p><p>We probably need to cut back on gov't benefits for able-bodied people BUT couple it with increased wages and benefits for low-skilled labor. I do feel for many immigrants but the use of their labor keeps wages (and therefore goods/services) lower than they would otherwise be. Cheaper grapes and lawn care: Good in the short-term. bad in the long-term, like Walmart.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="boondocks, post: 1524556, member: 20599"] In terms of jobs and immigration, I think we are basically "exporting" jobs, just reversing locations of job/employee. The net effect is that real wages for low-skilled labor are kept down: if 2 dairy farmers in a county hire illegal immigrants, how can the other two pay a higher wage (to legal residents) and still compete to sell milk to the big buyers? It's like drugs in the Tour de France, or MLB: a race to the bottom (if a few do it, everyone else must also or face elimination). Body builders solved the problem by instituting a separate system of competitions for "natural" (drug-tested) bodybuilders. Also: employers of illegal immigrants often steal wages etc., knowing that the employee can't complain. This is exploitative and in some cases amounts to an underground system approaching chattel slavery for the most wretched. We probably need to cut back on gov't benefits for able-bodied people BUT couple it with increased wages and benefits for low-skilled labor. I do feel for many immigrants but the use of their labor keeps wages (and therefore goods/services) lower than they would otherwise be. Cheaper grapes and lawn care: Good in the short-term. bad in the long-term, like Walmart. [/QUOTE]
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