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<blockquote data-quote="Hereford76" data-source="post: 755467" data-attributes="member: 7000"><p>well you are one of the few on here to speak my lingo i guess. talking about 80S. there is a fair bit of his influence here and 21M nicked very well with those type cattle. i've got a family back to a cow that was linebred to 80S and a 3/4 sib to 80S (21T). that old cow was the first 21M semen i used it on and all her daughters/grandaughters. they are some of the nicer cows. in fact if i had to sell the whole herd one of those 21M cows back that old cow would be one of 3 i probably couldn't sell. 21M is the first bull i've ever had first hand experience with that iis true to stamp low birth weight and still perform above average. the one draw back is they milk too hard and i don't mean their bags go bad cause their udders are perfect but they will draw down their body condition later in the fall... but they bring in the top calves and so far haven't had one come in dry but a little on the thin side. also i have been able to use heavier bw herd bulls on those 21M daughters and get lighter bw than i ever had out of them before. i did a little AI last spring on a handful of 21M daughters back to our old 249Y bull that would consistantly sire 90 to 110 bull calves and the heaviest calf i got by him this spring by a 21M cow was 89lbs down to 71lbs. i'll be using a grandson of 21M on all the heifers this spring. one of the best 80S sons ever used here was idaho voltage that we owned with loosli - absolutley beautifl females... wish i could find some semn on him too.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hereford76, post: 755467, member: 7000"] well you are one of the few on here to speak my lingo i guess. talking about 80S. there is a fair bit of his influence here and 21M nicked very well with those type cattle. i've got a family back to a cow that was linebred to 80S and a 3/4 sib to 80S (21T). that old cow was the first 21M semen i used it on and all her daughters/grandaughters. they are some of the nicer cows. in fact if i had to sell the whole herd one of those 21M cows back that old cow would be one of 3 i probably couldn't sell. 21M is the first bull i've ever had first hand experience with that iis true to stamp low birth weight and still perform above average. the one draw back is they milk too hard and i don't mean their bags go bad cause their udders are perfect but they will draw down their body condition later in the fall... but they bring in the top calves and so far haven't had one come in dry but a little on the thin side. also i have been able to use heavier bw herd bulls on those 21M daughters and get lighter bw than i ever had out of them before. i did a little AI last spring on a handful of 21M daughters back to our old 249Y bull that would consistantly sire 90 to 110 bull calves and the heaviest calf i got by him this spring by a 21M cow was 89lbs down to 71lbs. i'll be using a grandson of 21M on all the heifers this spring. one of the best 80S sons ever used here was idaho voltage that we owned with loosli - absolutley beautifl females... wish i could find some semn on him too. [/QUOTE]
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