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<blockquote data-quote="hillsdown" data-source="post: 1237662" data-attributes="member: 5106"><p>As a "mom" of a new 4H'r my advice is to be prepared to have VERY DEEP pockets and do most of the work yourself. The feed bill alone is unbelievable. We still have 2 months more to feed and am already over $3500.00 in 4H ration and that does not count the $2000.00 purchase price for the steer as well as the hay, mineral, vaccination's, deworming and bedding. Before you sign up talk to the members and find out ahead of time just how helpful they are going to be or if it will be all for one. Will you have to buy your own blower, clippers on top of all of the brushes and fitting supplies?</p><p></p><p>A heifer to be competitive will have to be pushed as well, and that takes a little bit more expertise than a steer and you can ruin a good heifer by pushing her too hard for too long especially before she is bred. Then you need to get her back in working clothes condition so she can calve without problems.</p><p></p><p>Don't get me wrong as I really think 4H is a good thing but had I known ahead of time how much was expected of me financially as well as time wise I never would have signed him up, especially since the main part of our 4H group are just in it to make themselves look good and to heck with anyone else.</p><p></p><p>This will be the last year he does a steer, do not need that expense or the headache. Also with the lay offs in the oilfield sector I doubt many kids are even going to be able to sell their steers this year as they are always the majority of the buyers. Could be some families stuck with some very expensive steers come June.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="hillsdown, post: 1237662, member: 5106"] As a "mom" of a new 4H'r my advice is to be prepared to have VERY DEEP pockets and do most of the work yourself. The feed bill alone is unbelievable. We still have 2 months more to feed and am already over $3500.00 in 4H ration and that does not count the $2000.00 purchase price for the steer as well as the hay, mineral, vaccination's, deworming and bedding. Before you sign up talk to the members and find out ahead of time just how helpful they are going to be or if it will be all for one. Will you have to buy your own blower, clippers on top of all of the brushes and fitting supplies? A heifer to be competitive will have to be pushed as well, and that takes a little bit more expertise than a steer and you can ruin a good heifer by pushing her too hard for too long especially before she is bred. Then you need to get her back in working clothes condition so she can calve without problems. Don't get me wrong as I really think 4H is a good thing but had I known ahead of time how much was expected of me financially as well as time wise I never would have signed him up, especially since the main part of our 4H group are just in it to make themselves look good and to heck with anyone else. This will be the last year he does a steer, do not need that expense or the headache. Also with the lay offs in the oilfield sector I doubt many kids are even going to be able to sell their steers this year as they are always the majority of the buyers. Could be some families stuck with some very expensive steers come June. [/QUOTE]
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