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<blockquote data-quote="farmerjan" data-source="post: 1812655" data-attributes="member: 25884"><p>IMMODIUM for people... 1 tablet for 100 lbs... use 1 tablet for the calf unless a little peeweee size calf........ twice a day if necessary....</p><p></p><p>The biggest problem with getting calves on nurse cows is for them to get too much.... Gotta limit the intake for 3-7 days as they go from either colostrum on the dam, or from powdered milk in a bottle....</p><p>Pills, boluses etc are easier and faster than trying to get them to drink those mixes to stop scours. Many times scours is NOT a "bug" or something in their gut tract...a... it is strictly over eating... Take the calf off the cow for one feeding... give it electrolytes or even plain water in a bottle if you can get it to take it... and get the gut "stopped up"....</p><p>That is why when I try to get a second group started on a cow, the CURRENT calves get to come in and "finish up the udder" long before the new calves get their fill.... You want them to still be a little hungry for the first 4-6 feedings at least....</p><p>It can be a pain in the butt to transition to a second group... but if you have a little patience it can be done as long as the cow accepts them. </p><p></p><p>I have not used the sustain boluses in years but not saying they aren't good.... just use the immodium which is strictly to S-L-O-W the milk down through the stomach and gut tract... it helps them to absorb the nutrients ... makes the manure thicker... stops the squirts.</p><p></p><p>Anything with psyillium also will firm up the manure... you can get pill forms for people also... </p><p>Home made recipe is 1-2 eggs, added to 2 tsp salt, 1 tsp baking soda, mixed in 1-2 qts water.... can give another mix in 4 hours... give more water if the calf is looking for more... The egg will help to firm it up... salt and baking soda replenish some of the missing electrolytes...eggs do not have to be beaten hard... just mixed in..... baking soda can make it foam and you do not want that. The salt helps to make them more thirsty to drink more after a bit also.... </p><p>I have also added apple cider vinegar at the rate of 1/2 cup to a 2 qt. bottle... or again, use capsules for people... settles the stomach some. </p><p></p><p>I know the vets will cringe on some of these, but have used several of them many times...</p><p></p><p>The biggest thing is to not let them get too much in the beginning...</p><p></p><p>Also, I keep on hand a few packages of resorb or other calf scour things to mix in water to give... cheap insurance to have them on hand... look at the ingredients and see they are not complicated...</p><p>But I like the immodium for just "overeating type scours"...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="farmerjan, post: 1812655, member: 25884"] IMMODIUM for people... 1 tablet for 100 lbs... use 1 tablet for the calf unless a little peeweee size calf........ twice a day if necessary.... The biggest problem with getting calves on nurse cows is for them to get too much.... Gotta limit the intake for 3-7 days as they go from either colostrum on the dam, or from powdered milk in a bottle.... Pills, boluses etc are easier and faster than trying to get them to drink those mixes to stop scours. Many times scours is NOT a "bug" or something in their gut tract...a... it is strictly over eating... Take the calf off the cow for one feeding... give it electrolytes or even plain water in a bottle if you can get it to take it... and get the gut "stopped up".... That is why when I try to get a second group started on a cow, the CURRENT calves get to come in and "finish up the udder" long before the new calves get their fill.... You want them to still be a little hungry for the first 4-6 feedings at least.... It can be a pain in the butt to transition to a second group... but if you have a little patience it can be done as long as the cow accepts them. I have not used the sustain boluses in years but not saying they aren't good.... just use the immodium which is strictly to S-L-O-W the milk down through the stomach and gut tract... it helps them to absorb the nutrients ... makes the manure thicker... stops the squirts. Anything with psyillium also will firm up the manure... you can get pill forms for people also... Home made recipe is 1-2 eggs, added to 2 tsp salt, 1 tsp baking soda, mixed in 1-2 qts water.... can give another mix in 4 hours... give more water if the calf is looking for more... The egg will help to firm it up... salt and baking soda replenish some of the missing electrolytes...eggs do not have to be beaten hard... just mixed in..... baking soda can make it foam and you do not want that. The salt helps to make them more thirsty to drink more after a bit also.... I have also added apple cider vinegar at the rate of 1/2 cup to a 2 qt. bottle... or again, use capsules for people... settles the stomach some. I know the vets will cringe on some of these, but have used several of them many times... The biggest thing is to not let them get too much in the beginning... Also, I keep on hand a few packages of resorb or other calf scour things to mix in water to give... cheap insurance to have them on hand... look at the ingredients and see they are not complicated... But I like the immodium for just "overeating type scours"... [/QUOTE]
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