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<blockquote data-quote="farmerjan" data-source="post: 1810591" data-attributes="member: 25884"><p>[USER=40587]@Warren Allison[/USER] , if I may chime in.... I do what [USER=39373]@MurraysMutts[/USER] does... have done it for 30-40 years off and on....the last 2 years I haven't done much with the ankle, then the 2 knee replacements. But my one nurse cow is 5 months bred so will be back to it later this fall... I put my other 5 on a dairy when I went in for the ankle replacement and they are still there... </p><p> There are 2 ways to go and it will definitely depend on the cows. Some will do like Bessie... and take most any calf, at any time... but for the most part I find it easier... and sometimes the only way...is to get calves started on the cow, let her raise them up to weaning at 4-600 lbs... and then either get her to take one more until she needs to go dry.... or just dry her up.... You are going to have to monitor the feed and such so if you pull the calves they will dry up... cutting feed towards the end so they are not milking much and the calves are eating good so not stimulating the cow to make so much milk. </p><p>My nurse cow that is due again this fall, would take calves with a little work, several times through her lactation... In fact the last time she had some, she had 3 from the start... then came up open and we had a calf on a bottle (from a heifer that prolapsed and died), for a couple days... and we sold her 3 and she took the orphan and left it on her for another 6 months and then she came up bred... weaned him and then when she calved again she raised 3 again... weaned them and dried her up and now she is due this fall... She is getting a little age on her now, on top of my being limited with the replacement surgeries... so has been spread out on her last 2 "times" with calves. But she has more than earned her keep...</p><p></p><p>I don't try to put more than 3 on a first calf heifer... and she will need to get some feed supplement so she will keep up her body weight and grow and get bred back....and make milk.</p><p>I have had as many as 4 in the barn with calves but it is tough... 1 or 2 at a time, get the calves established... and let them just raise them up without trying to switch the calves out.... </p><p>I don't doubt that Zeke will do his very best... but not all the cows will be as wonderful as [USER=39373]@MurraysMutts[/USER] Bessie is...I have had a few that will take the original calves and refuse to take any later on... If they raise 3 apiece they have more than paid for themselves... and with putting them on and leaving them the whole time... you do not have to push them to keep making "alot" of milk as the calves get older since they are eating alongside the cow.... to keep switching out calves, you need to keep the milk production up longer.... more supplementation for optimal milk production.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="farmerjan, post: 1810591, member: 25884"] [USER=40587]@Warren Allison[/USER] , if I may chime in.... I do what [USER=39373]@MurraysMutts[/USER] does... have done it for 30-40 years off and on....the last 2 years I haven't done much with the ankle, then the 2 knee replacements. But my one nurse cow is 5 months bred so will be back to it later this fall... I put my other 5 on a dairy when I went in for the ankle replacement and they are still there... There are 2 ways to go and it will definitely depend on the cows. Some will do like Bessie... and take most any calf, at any time... but for the most part I find it easier... and sometimes the only way...is to get calves started on the cow, let her raise them up to weaning at 4-600 lbs... and then either get her to take one more until she needs to go dry.... or just dry her up.... You are going to have to monitor the feed and such so if you pull the calves they will dry up... cutting feed towards the end so they are not milking much and the calves are eating good so not stimulating the cow to make so much milk. My nurse cow that is due again this fall, would take calves with a little work, several times through her lactation... In fact the last time she had some, she had 3 from the start... then came up open and we had a calf on a bottle (from a heifer that prolapsed and died), for a couple days... and we sold her 3 and she took the orphan and left it on her for another 6 months and then she came up bred... weaned him and then when she calved again she raised 3 again... weaned them and dried her up and now she is due this fall... She is getting a little age on her now, on top of my being limited with the replacement surgeries... so has been spread out on her last 2 "times" with calves. But she has more than earned her keep... I don't try to put more than 3 on a first calf heifer... and she will need to get some feed supplement so she will keep up her body weight and grow and get bred back....and make milk. I have had as many as 4 in the barn with calves but it is tough... 1 or 2 at a time, get the calves established... and let them just raise them up without trying to switch the calves out.... I don't doubt that Zeke will do his very best... but not all the cows will be as wonderful as [USER=39373]@MurraysMutts[/USER] Bessie is...I have had a few that will take the original calves and refuse to take any later on... If they raise 3 apiece they have more than paid for themselves... and with putting them on and leaving them the whole time... you do not have to push them to keep making "alot" of milk as the calves get older since they are eating alongside the cow.... to keep switching out calves, you need to keep the milk production up longer.... more supplementation for optimal milk production. [/QUOTE]
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