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<blockquote data-quote="Kathie in Thorp" data-source="post: 1317164" data-attributes="member: 16769"><p>Haven't seen that yet, Dave, but not surprised. Somewhere in this thread there's a link to the autopsy report. He was back-shot -- there were two officers below him, and one above -- a long triangular situation. From either direction, LE people were at risk, when he made the "furtive movements" inside his jacket. As he spun, he made a target of his back. That suggests to me . . . they didn't engage him head-on because they gave him a chance. About those FBI guys shooting into the truck, don't know about them. But the guys that killed him were Oregon State troopers -- 3 shots, and the shots did killing damage. There was a loaded gun in Lavoy's pocket. That would be in line with what Lavoy had to say ahead of the incident -- but going to a meeting 50 miles away, he probably wouldn't have carried his big revolver side-arm.</p><p></p><p>And yep, they planned to stop that caravan, and likely at the best place they could catch them. It was known they were headed to another county's jurisidiction, they thought might be friendlier. LaVoy didn't decide that at the last minute at the first stop -- that's where they were headed. The folks in the Jeep quit at the first stop, and no one got hurt. Lavoy blew through it after many minuties of discussion about it. Indictments had been filed and warrants were out. Usually, "warrants out" aren't published ahead of time. Duhhhh. LE didn't want a shoot-out at the encampment at the reserve. Daaam right, they "planned" a catch-them along the highway. But Lavoy wasn't smart. He didn't stop and stay at the first road block. Nope. He chose to continue on, endangering himself and those with him, probably thinking that the "tollerance" would continue for the group's total disregard of fed controlled property, the disruption to the local community, the complete disregard for the local Natives' concernss, the operation of the the reserve (including going through and pilferring the records and shytting in trenches), and the folks that needed access (legally) to their cattle and grazing rights, while he drove the group to whine to another county sheriff that had no jurisdiction. Yep, Lavoy was a fine man, but not a bright guy that day. I hope the Bundys take their share of blame for this.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kathie in Thorp, post: 1317164, member: 16769"] Haven't seen that yet, Dave, but not surprised. Somewhere in this thread there's a link to the autopsy report. He was back-shot -- there were two officers below him, and one above -- a long triangular situation. From either direction, LE people were at risk, when he made the "furtive movements" inside his jacket. As he spun, he made a target of his back. That suggests to me . . . they didn't engage him head-on because they gave him a chance. About those FBI guys shooting into the truck, don't know about them. But the guys that killed him were Oregon State troopers -- 3 shots, and the shots did killing damage. There was a loaded gun in Lavoy's pocket. That would be in line with what Lavoy had to say ahead of the incident -- but going to a meeting 50 miles away, he probably wouldn't have carried his big revolver side-arm. And yep, they planned to stop that caravan, and likely at the best place they could catch them. It was known they were headed to another county's jurisidiction, they thought might be friendlier. LaVoy didn't decide that at the last minute at the first stop -- that's where they were headed. The folks in the Jeep quit at the first stop, and no one got hurt. Lavoy blew through it after many minuties of discussion about it. Indictments had been filed and warrants were out. Usually, "warrants out" aren't published ahead of time. Duhhhh. LE didn't want a shoot-out at the encampment at the reserve. Daaam right, they "planned" a catch-them along the highway. But Lavoy wasn't smart. He didn't stop and stay at the first road block. Nope. He chose to continue on, endangering himself and those with him, probably thinking that the "tollerance" would continue for the group's total disregard of fed controlled property, the disruption to the local community, the complete disregard for the local Natives' concernss, the operation of the the reserve (including going through and pilferring the records and shytting in trenches), and the folks that needed access (legally) to their cattle and grazing rights, while he drove the group to whine to another county sheriff that had no jurisdiction. Yep, Lavoy was a fine man, but not a bright guy that day. I hope the Bundys take their share of blame for this. [/QUOTE]
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