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<blockquote data-quote="Willow Springs" data-source="post: 659480" data-attributes="member: 9002"><p>This is true, but it also true that the AAA and CAA have abnormal calf reports. If breeders had filled these out and reported them to the associations as required (with pictures and pedigrees) the link would have been made long ago; some would say that it was made and ignored. From what I understand those that did report abnormal calves hit a brick wall at the AAA.</p><p></p><p>As others have said; I think it is very important to note that the leadership is very different in the AAA now versus then and very rapid progress is being made on cleaning things up. </p><p></p><p>At the end of the day we need to worry about our commercial customers in this. It is a very manageble issue. Identify carriers in your herd, talk to buyers of the bulls and make sure they know the issues. Help them through this so that they know what lines not to stack. Nothing wrong with them keeping good commercial carrier cows if they buy from reputable breeders who make sure the bulls they are selling are (known) genetic defect free. </p><p></p><p>As I wrote another site; at the end of the day these defects are no different than eliminating poor feet, poor udders, hard calving, maneaters and all the other things we cull for. I cull more females becasue of poor feet, udders, fleshing ability, etc than I have or probably ever will becasue of "genetic defects"; many of these are from AI bulls, show bulls, etc. Did someone know what was happening? Did someone know that the bull would sire bad udders? Of course someone knew. Are bad udders a genetic defect? Of course they are; they are controlled (mainly) by DNA the same as these others we are discussing. It's just that these new "genetic defects" have a more immediate down side at birth and a much bigger stigma attached to them because of it. </p><p></p><p>The sooner the frenzy stops and management of these issues begins the better.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Willow Springs, post: 659480, member: 9002"] This is true, but it also true that the AAA and CAA have abnormal calf reports. If breeders had filled these out and reported them to the associations as required (with pictures and pedigrees) the link would have been made long ago; some would say that it was made and ignored. From what I understand those that did report abnormal calves hit a brick wall at the AAA. As others have said; I think it is very important to note that the leadership is very different in the AAA now versus then and very rapid progress is being made on cleaning things up. At the end of the day we need to worry about our commercial customers in this. It is a very manageble issue. Identify carriers in your herd, talk to buyers of the bulls and make sure they know the issues. Help them through this so that they know what lines not to stack. Nothing wrong with them keeping good commercial carrier cows if they buy from reputable breeders who make sure the bulls they are selling are (known) genetic defect free. As I wrote another site; at the end of the day these defects are no different than eliminating poor feet, poor udders, hard calving, maneaters and all the other things we cull for. I cull more females becasue of poor feet, udders, fleshing ability, etc than I have or probably ever will becasue of "genetic defects"; many of these are from AI bulls, show bulls, etc. Did someone know what was happening? Did someone know that the bull would sire bad udders? Of course someone knew. Are bad udders a genetic defect? Of course they are; they are controlled (mainly) by DNA the same as these others we are discussing. It's just that these new "genetic defects" have a more immediate down side at birth and a much bigger stigma attached to them because of it. The sooner the frenzy stops and management of these issues begins the better. [/QUOTE]
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