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<blockquote data-quote="Brandonm22" data-source="post: 602021" data-attributes="member: 7645"><p>Historically, the only reason too register a cow was so that you could sell "registered bulls" out of her. There used to be no market for the females except for people starting out in the reg. cow business. The Angus Pres mentioned that in his bio article talking about the ~70s. Everybody kept their best heifers, sold bulls for a premium, and dumped the rest of their females through the stockyard with the steers or sold them as commercial cows. You imported new genetics into your reg. herd by buying bulls since females could only have one calf a year and thus minimal impact on the program. AI (which narrowed the need for reg. bulls on the seedstock side) and E.T. (which increased the impact a cow could have ten fold) changed this business. Now people are trying too traffic in "donor quality" females and show heifers and there is less focus on the bull business; but a lot of people are still in the commercial bull business and they keep 30-60% of their bulls intact. They sell bulls too spring calving commercial herds in March to May. They sell bulls too fall calving herds in Sept to Dec. This is like the retail biz. If you are overstocked in December you better put it on sale because there are less buyers in the winter and yes some probably should start castrating before they sell bulls for less than a $ thousand; but I got my AL Livestock Market News for the week that ended Nov 14 (I don't know why the new one isn't here yet and I lost the week in between) in front of me and Medium and Large 1 steers ~772 lbs are bringing ~$.7931/lb. That would put a steer at ~$612. A $1000 for a yearling reg. bull is too cheap BUT it IS $388 more Christmas money than a $612 steer is and an intact bull at that size is only bringing $543 (at $.704/lb). Heavier bulls are bringing more (a 1300 lb bull sold for slaughter brings ~$825 at $.55/lb). Either way a $1000 is a short term gain; BUT long term it encourages the buyer to believe that that is a fair price. ME I probably would rather have been there in September, paid $2000 and got the best bull out of the group rather than be sorting through the picked overs left at Christmas time, but everybody looks at it a little differently.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Brandonm22, post: 602021, member: 7645"] Historically, the only reason too register a cow was so that you could sell "registered bulls" out of her. There used to be no market for the females except for people starting out in the reg. cow business. The Angus Pres mentioned that in his bio article talking about the ~70s. Everybody kept their best heifers, sold bulls for a premium, and dumped the rest of their females through the stockyard with the steers or sold them as commercial cows. You imported new genetics into your reg. herd by buying bulls since females could only have one calf a year and thus minimal impact on the program. AI (which narrowed the need for reg. bulls on the seedstock side) and E.T. (which increased the impact a cow could have ten fold) changed this business. Now people are trying too traffic in "donor quality" females and show heifers and there is less focus on the bull business; but a lot of people are still in the commercial bull business and they keep 30-60% of their bulls intact. They sell bulls too spring calving commercial herds in March to May. They sell bulls too fall calving herds in Sept to Dec. This is like the retail biz. If you are overstocked in December you better put it on sale because there are less buyers in the winter and yes some probably should start castrating before they sell bulls for less than a $ thousand; but I got my AL Livestock Market News for the week that ended Nov 14 (I don't know why the new one isn't here yet and I lost the week in between) in front of me and Medium and Large 1 steers ~772 lbs are bringing ~$.7931/lb. That would put a steer at ~$612. A $1000 for a yearling reg. bull is too cheap BUT it IS $388 more Christmas money than a $612 steer is and an intact bull at that size is only bringing $543 (at $.704/lb). Heavier bulls are bringing more (a 1300 lb bull sold for slaughter brings ~$825 at $.55/lb). Either way a $1000 is a short term gain; BUT long term it encourages the buyer to believe that that is a fair price. ME I probably would rather have been there in September, paid $2000 and got the best bull out of the group rather than be sorting through the picked overs left at Christmas time, but everybody looks at it a little differently. [/QUOTE]
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