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<blockquote data-quote="TexasBred" data-source="post: 829877" data-attributes="member: 6897"><p>dc, I never said excess protein would not affect the consistency of manure...<strong>only that it was not the only factor in determining manure consistency.</strong> and moisture was also often a cause especially when grazing high moisture lush green grass as you yourself use. I do appreciate your engineering approach to a nutritional question. Very impressive. But for moisture in hay a simple moisture tester probe works well enough for me. Calculate the protein intake of one of your cattle eating nice lush fertilized grass...we'll reduce it to 80% moisture for you. If she eats 40 lbs. per day she gets 8 pounds of dry matter. Even if the grass is 25% crude protein on a dry matter basis her protein intake is only 2 lbs. of pure protein per head per day. Hardly more than she would get from eating dry hay. But consider that the grass is much more digestible, contains almost no fiber in any form and from 80 to 90% water and we have thin manure. TDN is definitely is a factor, so we've established already that it is <strong>not the amount of crude protein "alone</strong>" (This is not in conflict with your link). There are other factors. As for my research...I submitted to the department heads at Aggieland before the author of your link was born. ;-) Peace brother. ;-)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TexasBred, post: 829877, member: 6897"] dc, I never said excess protein would not affect the consistency of manure...[b]only that it was not the only factor in determining manure consistency.[/b] and moisture was also often a cause especially when grazing high moisture lush green grass as you yourself use. I do appreciate your engineering approach to a nutritional question. Very impressive. But for moisture in hay a simple moisture tester probe works well enough for me. Calculate the protein intake of one of your cattle eating nice lush fertilized grass...we'll reduce it to 80% moisture for you. If she eats 40 lbs. per day she gets 8 pounds of dry matter. Even if the grass is 25% crude protein on a dry matter basis her protein intake is only 2 lbs. of pure protein per head per day. Hardly more than she would get from eating dry hay. But consider that the grass is much more digestible, contains almost no fiber in any form and from 80 to 90% water and we have thin manure. TDN is definitely is a factor, so we've established already that it is [b]not the amount of crude protein "alone[/b]" (This is not in conflict with your link). There are other factors. As for my research...I submitted to the department heads at Aggieland before the author of your link was born. ;-) Peace brother. ;-) [/QUOTE]
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