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<blockquote data-quote="Hill Creek Farm" data-source="post: 227737" data-attributes="member: 155"><p>Bez, the Vindicator duaghters we had at one time, many moons ago, mostly all of them prolapsed. I even went back into our journals from that period of time when Vindicator was so popular and we bred 25 of the Vindicator daughters to bulls that didn't have any problems calving, and when 9 months was up, 15 of the Vindicators prolapsed. It states that we were never to use that bull again. My grandfather also wrote that he had reports from other breeders in Virginia stating that they had problems with Vindicator daughters. 103T, well, my grandfather used him and once the 103T daughters were old enough to breed and we bred them to our herd bulls at that time, 9 months came around and it states that we bred 14 103T daughters and 6 of them prolapsed. So, he never worked for us and I just got done cleaning out the tank, found some semen on Vindicator and I through it away. There will never be another cow bred to either one of those bulls. 103T and Vindicator were both powerful bulls, but with there daughters having that prolapse problem, he goes down as being a awful bull. Now, we had some Vindicator daughters that turned out to be some really good cows and milked well, alond with the 103T daughters that didn't prolapse, they were nice daughters as well. So, Lets just say, I will never ever use 103T or Vindicator again. Hey, you all go right ahead and use him, but when those 103T and Vindicator daughters mature into cows, don't come crying to me because you didn't listen to what I had to say about them. :cboy:</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hill Creek Farm, post: 227737, member: 155"] Bez, the Vindicator duaghters we had at one time, many moons ago, mostly all of them prolapsed. I even went back into our journals from that period of time when Vindicator was so popular and we bred 25 of the Vindicator daughters to bulls that didn't have any problems calving, and when 9 months was up, 15 of the Vindicators prolapsed. It states that we were never to use that bull again. My grandfather also wrote that he had reports from other breeders in Virginia stating that they had problems with Vindicator daughters. 103T, well, my grandfather used him and once the 103T daughters were old enough to breed and we bred them to our herd bulls at that time, 9 months came around and it states that we bred 14 103T daughters and 6 of them prolapsed. So, he never worked for us and I just got done cleaning out the tank, found some semen on Vindicator and I through it away. There will never be another cow bred to either one of those bulls. 103T and Vindicator were both powerful bulls, but with there daughters having that prolapse problem, he goes down as being a awful bull. Now, we had some Vindicator daughters that turned out to be some really good cows and milked well, alond with the 103T daughters that didn't prolapse, they were nice daughters as well. So, Lets just say, I will never ever use 103T or Vindicator again. Hey, you all go right ahead and use him, but when those 103T and Vindicator daughters mature into cows, don't come crying to me because you didn't listen to what I had to say about them. :cboy: [/QUOTE]
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