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<blockquote data-quote="CVAR" data-source="post: 1675338" data-attributes="member: 16130"><p>That is really bad advice to someone that is asking a legitimate question. Rather than a right or wrong answer for this, here is what you need to consider. How do you market your calves? If you have bigger numbers (say more than 70'ish) and you retain ownership on those cattle all the way up until they are processed, then paying higher dollars for elite marbling genetics will absolutely pay a difference (unlike callmefence's statement above). If you sell right when you wean, then you don't really care about performance on the rail but you might want to pay for elite weaning weight bulls to get the most pounds possible (again making a big difference between prices)...If your breeding a bunch of smaller frames 1st calf heifers, you might want to buy the elite, sure fire calving ease bulls. I could go on and on. On top of that and where things really begin to affect price is when the bull has elite numbers but also looks good - people will pay big $$$ for that. Good question that needs a good answer - there is an absolute difference between a $1700 bull and a 17k bull. A good average price for a yearling bull is 2500-3500 while a decent average for 18month old to 2yr is additive of about $500 to that. That should net an AI sired bull that hits a good mark. Using any old bull regardless of commercial or otherwise usually means calving problems, inconsistency in progeny, bad structure and the list goes on and on. Just like breeding dogs or other animals, the majority of males should not be used for breeding, use of only the better ones should be utilized (lots of backyard breeders breeding pets that should never be allowed to breed them but it happens - albeit to the detriment of the various breeds)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CVAR, post: 1675338, member: 16130"] That is really bad advice to someone that is asking a legitimate question. Rather than a right or wrong answer for this, here is what you need to consider. How do you market your calves? If you have bigger numbers (say more than 70’ish) and you retain ownership on those cattle all the way up until they are processed, then paying higher dollars for elite marbling genetics will absolutely pay a difference (unlike callmefence’s statement above). If you sell right when you wean, then you don’t really care about performance on the rail but you might want to pay for elite weaning weight bulls to get the most pounds possible (again making a big difference between prices)...If your breeding a bunch of smaller frames 1st calf heifers, you might want to buy the elite, sure fire calving ease bulls. I could go on and on. On top of that and where things really begin to affect price is when the bull has elite numbers but also looks good - people will pay big $$$ for that. Good question that needs a good answer - there is an absolute difference between a $1700 bull and a 17k bull. A good average price for a yearling bull is 2500-3500 while a decent average for 18month old to 2yr is additive of about $500 to that. That should net an AI sired bull that hits a good mark. Using any old bull regardless of commercial or otherwise usually means calving problems, inconsistency in progeny, bad structure and the list goes on and on. Just like breeding dogs or other animals, the majority of males should not be used for breeding, use of only the better ones should be utilized (lots of backyard breeders breeding pets that should never be allowed to breed them but it happens - albeit to the detriment of the various breeds) [/QUOTE]
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