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<blockquote data-quote="somn" data-source="post: 214749" data-attributes="member: 3721"><p>Norriscathy</p><p>First of all transporting the product has nothing to do with the production of the product I hate to say your gas doesn't magically appear in the tank below your gas station a fuel tansport delivered it there. The same way they will deliver the ethanol so please use a different approach. As far as needing to be refined I'm uncertain what you meen Ethanol has a denaturant added at the plant to make it undrinkable if thats what you meen by refined the denature is just regular gasoline. </p><p> The fertilizer is called hog sh*t it takes 1.25 gallons of diesel fuel per acre to apply it. The rest of the year our diesel use has averaged 9.7 gallons per acre to produce the corn and transport it to the plant. From that acre we averaged 173 bushels of corn per acre for the last 17 years. 173 bushels of corn equals 484 gallons of ethanol. 12.12 gallons of diesel fuel to produce 484 gallons of ethanol you do the math. </p><p></p><p> </p><p> Campground this is where you can put some of your knowledge to work. How much energy is used in only the production of the ethanol from the time the corn gets to the plant until it leaves as useable fuel. You claim to know so much about ethanol beinf a waste so give me the exact figures. I for one will never ever believe the ethanol plant will use 300 gallons of tradional fuel to produce those 484 gallons of ethanol. But hey your the energy expert as you and caustic claim. </p><p></p><p></p><p> Caustic I have no "creditials" in the refining buisness I will admit that. I'm quite certain your friend Campground has no creditials in the production of No 2 yellow corn but yet he has all the answers when it comes to the amount of energy used in corn production. I will gladly listen to his expertise about refining but he needs to listen to an expert in corn production.</p><p>Amazing what people can learn if they only listen. I'm not sure where your from but campground and norris are from Texas we used to buy cattle at Sulphur Springs and Stephensville I never saw a decent looking corn crop in Texas when I picked up those cattle. I'm not saying it doesn't happen in Texas I've just never seen it. Texas is big. But maybe your vision of a cornfield and mine are so very different that you can'tunderstand it is possible that it works to turn corn into ethanol But it does.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="somn, post: 214749, member: 3721"] Norriscathy First of all transporting the product has nothing to do with the production of the product I hate to say your gas doesn't magically appear in the tank below your gas station a fuel tansport delivered it there. The same way they will deliver the ethanol so please use a different approach. As far as needing to be refined I'm uncertain what you meen Ethanol has a denaturant added at the plant to make it undrinkable if thats what you meen by refined the denature is just regular gasoline. The fertilizer is called hog sh*t it takes 1.25 gallons of diesel fuel per acre to apply it. The rest of the year our diesel use has averaged 9.7 gallons per acre to produce the corn and transport it to the plant. From that acre we averaged 173 bushels of corn per acre for the last 17 years. 173 bushels of corn equals 484 gallons of ethanol. 12.12 gallons of diesel fuel to produce 484 gallons of ethanol you do the math. Campground this is where you can put some of your knowledge to work. How much energy is used in only the production of the ethanol from the time the corn gets to the plant until it leaves as useable fuel. You claim to know so much about ethanol beinf a waste so give me the exact figures. I for one will never ever believe the ethanol plant will use 300 gallons of tradional fuel to produce those 484 gallons of ethanol. But hey your the energy expert as you and caustic claim. Caustic I have no "creditials" in the refining buisness I will admit that. I'm quite certain your friend Campground has no creditials in the production of No 2 yellow corn but yet he has all the answers when it comes to the amount of energy used in corn production. I will gladly listen to his expertise about refining but he needs to listen to an expert in corn production. Amazing what people can learn if they only listen. I'm not sure where your from but campground and norris are from Texas we used to buy cattle at Sulphur Springs and Stephensville I never saw a decent looking corn crop in Texas when I picked up those cattle. I'm not saying it doesn't happen in Texas I've just never seen it. Texas is big. But maybe your vision of a cornfield and mine are so very different that you can'tunderstand it is possible that it works to turn corn into ethanol But it does. [/QUOTE]
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