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<blockquote data-quote="KNERSIE" data-source="post: 640766" data-attributes="member: 4353"><p>When the whole usefullness of breeding by unproven numbers shows its real value is when you have a group of substandard calves with a great set of EPDs. </p><p></p><p>I'd take a great crop of calves with average numbers anyday over a calf crop with great numbers and average quality, but to each his own. </p><p></p><p>The real world cattlemen that buys our bulls don't complain over low or average EPDs of hereford bulls they bought, they complain about high BW (they also don't try and justify the high BW by saying the growth is great, they just complain about the high BW), they complain about a lack of bone, lack of muscle and poor udders and eyes that causes problems. They constantly complain that the industry don't give them the type of cattle they want and they have to look elsewhere without ever saying "atleast the hereford bulls that they buy nowadays has got much better unproven EPDs today than it had 20 years ago."</p><p></p><p>We as breeders must wake up and smell the coffee!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KNERSIE, post: 640766, member: 4353"] When the whole usefullness of breeding by unproven numbers shows its real value is when you have a group of substandard calves with a great set of EPDs. I'd take a great crop of calves with average numbers anyday over a calf crop with great numbers and average quality, but to each his own. The real world cattlemen that buys our bulls don't complain over low or average EPDs of hereford bulls they bought, they complain about high BW (they also don't try and justify the high BW by saying the growth is great, they just complain about the high BW), they complain about a lack of bone, lack of muscle and poor udders and eyes that causes problems. They constantly complain that the industry don't give them the type of cattle they want and they have to look elsewhere without ever saying "atleast the hereford bulls that they buy nowadays has got much better unproven EPDs today than it had 20 years ago." We as breeders must wake up and smell the coffee! [/QUOTE]
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