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<blockquote data-quote="Dave" data-source="post: 889595" data-attributes="member: 498"><p>I do believe that leasing land is the best way to start. Maybe even the best way to be in business. I do realize that this is the world wide web and things vary a lot in different parts of the world. But in this area there is land for lease for basically paying the taxes. I know people who make 100% of their living from cattle who are on 100% leased ground. There is simply a lot less start up cost working on leased ground. Land is by far the most expensive portion of the start up equation and the biggest investment. The down side of leasing is losing the lease. To off set this issue work on having multiple leases. That way the loss of one property wont put you out of business. </p><p>I think CB's figure of $1.25-1.35 a day per cow is pretty close. That $500 per year per cow makes 400 pound calves at $1.25 a break even. But it makes this years 700 pound calves at $1.25 look pretty good. However, if a person thinks all years will be like this one...... well they aren't going to be. </p><p>I think it will take 300 cows to make a living. Many more than that and a person will probably be looking to hire help. Less than that and it will be a mighty thin living.</p><p>I also think a person has to be willing to think outside the box. Just straight cow/calf, raising your own heifers, buying better bulls, and selling calves at weaning puts you into the same market as a lot of other people. Direct marketing if you live close enough to population centers. Bringing in outside stockers to graze off extra grass. Those are a couple ideas. Every area has an unfair advantage. It could be cheap feed, mild winters, inexpensive pasture leases, or a strong market.... figure out what the unfair advantage is that you have a capitalize on it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dave, post: 889595, member: 498"] I do believe that leasing land is the best way to start. Maybe even the best way to be in business. I do realize that this is the world wide web and things vary a lot in different parts of the world. But in this area there is land for lease for basically paying the taxes. I know people who make 100% of their living from cattle who are on 100% leased ground. There is simply a lot less start up cost working on leased ground. Land is by far the most expensive portion of the start up equation and the biggest investment. The down side of leasing is losing the lease. To off set this issue work on having multiple leases. That way the loss of one property wont put you out of business. I think CB's figure of $1.25-1.35 a day per cow is pretty close. That $500 per year per cow makes 400 pound calves at $1.25 a break even. But it makes this years 700 pound calves at $1.25 look pretty good. However, if a person thinks all years will be like this one...... well they aren't going to be. I think it will take 300 cows to make a living. Many more than that and a person will probably be looking to hire help. Less than that and it will be a mighty thin living. I also think a person has to be willing to think outside the box. Just straight cow/calf, raising your own heifers, buying better bulls, and selling calves at weaning puts you into the same market as a lot of other people. Direct marketing if you live close enough to population centers. Bringing in outside stockers to graze off extra grass. Those are a couple ideas. Every area has an unfair advantage. It could be cheap feed, mild winters, inexpensive pasture leases, or a strong market.... figure out what the unfair advantage is that you have a capitalize on it. [/QUOTE]
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