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<blockquote data-quote="ny_grass" data-source="post: 606173" data-attributes="member: 8237"><p>Thanks to everyone who's taken time to help me out on this.</p><p></p><p>Here's what's new:</p><p>- went to the mill on friday and bought 400 lbs of what they call a heifer mix (16% protein). I think it's a pretty standard mix: corn, oats, distillers by products, etc... (non-medicated).</p><p>- we put the roof on the new digs for the cattle. Lots of fun in 12F weather (but it least it was sunny). I'll get some pictures of it up tomorrow. I have a west facing wall to put up, the electric fence around it (which might be hard with frozen ground), and I've got to build the hay and grain feeders. The whole concept behind this structure is another Salatin idea; a roof to keep it dry; hay nearby to drop right into the feeders and, most importantly, wood chips or saw dust on the ground to lock in the nitrogen; get the mix right and the mixture composts, helping to keep the cows dry and warm. The finished compost is supposed to be spread on the hayfield the following spring/summer. Problem, I've discovered, is that it least up here in upstate NY it appears to be impossible to get dump truck loads of saw dust; apparently it's all going to make pellets for stoves. Might have a mess like I presently do if I can't get enough bedding down. The structure came in at about $2500. We'll see whether it was worth it as time goes on.</p><p></p><p>Some questions:</p><p>- Anyone have an idea of the simplest grain feeder that I could use that would help to insure that all the cattle get a share. Just something that allows them all to feed at once? Put it off the ground 18-24" or just on the ground? Should there be dividers to discourage the more dominant from nudging their smaller peers? Or is that overkill?</p><p></p><p>- I just looked up how long I should separate the calves for weaning. Here (<a href="http://cattletoday.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=53037&p=606046&hilit=weaning#p606046" target="_blank">viewtopic.php?f=19&t=53037&p=606046&hilit=weaning#p606046</a>), Dun and others say 6-8 weeks!! I had no idea; I was (seriously) thinking a week or so would do it! So that means I've got to come up with something different as my new "barn" isn't really big enough to split in two. I do have a proper barn but I've not wanted them in there (the concrete floor is pretty broken up and I envision it'd be tough to clean up, plus there really isn't much room).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ny_grass, post: 606173, member: 8237"] Thanks to everyone who's taken time to help me out on this. Here's what's new: - went to the mill on friday and bought 400 lbs of what they call a heifer mix (16% protein). I think it's a pretty standard mix: corn, oats, distillers by products, etc... (non-medicated). - we put the roof on the new digs for the cattle. Lots of fun in 12F weather (but it least it was sunny). I'll get some pictures of it up tomorrow. I have a west facing wall to put up, the electric fence around it (which might be hard with frozen ground), and I've got to build the hay and grain feeders. The whole concept behind this structure is another Salatin idea; a roof to keep it dry; hay nearby to drop right into the feeders and, most importantly, wood chips or saw dust on the ground to lock in the nitrogen; get the mix right and the mixture composts, helping to keep the cows dry and warm. The finished compost is supposed to be spread on the hayfield the following spring/summer. Problem, I've discovered, is that it least up here in upstate NY it appears to be impossible to get dump truck loads of saw dust; apparently it's all going to make pellets for stoves. Might have a mess like I presently do if I can't get enough bedding down. The structure came in at about $2500. We'll see whether it was worth it as time goes on. Some questions: - Anyone have an idea of the simplest grain feeder that I could use that would help to insure that all the cattle get a share. Just something that allows them all to feed at once? Put it off the ground 18-24" or just on the ground? Should there be dividers to discourage the more dominant from nudging their smaller peers? Or is that overkill? - I just looked up how long I should separate the calves for weaning. Here ([url=http://cattletoday.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=53037&p=606046&hilit=weaning#p606046]viewtopic.php?f=19&t=53037&p=606046&hilit=weaning#p606046[/url]), Dun and others say 6-8 weeks!! I had no idea; I was (seriously) thinking a week or so would do it! So that means I've got to come up with something different as my new "barn" isn't really big enough to split in two. I do have a proper barn but I've not wanted them in there (the concrete floor is pretty broken up and I envision it'd be tough to clean up, plus there really isn't much room). [/QUOTE]
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