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<blockquote data-quote="SRBeef" data-source="post: 604580" data-attributes="member: 7509"><p>I am a beginner with cattle so I have to be careful about passing out cattle advice.</p><p></p><p>One problem with your post is that you say it has been a rough year but don't really tell why you lost two calves or why 6 cows aren't bred. There may (or may not) be a lot more to the story than what you have said. You don't mention how old your calves are, etc. etc. You do say thay are "big". I will give you the benefit of the doubt that there were some circumstances that caused these multiple problems.</p><p></p><p>I did notice a real drop off in the condition of my cows in the month os before Nov 1 weaning. Nursing a large calf evidently takes a lot out of a cow, especially if they are also carrying next spring's calf. I also noticed that once I did wean - get the calves off of the cows, the cows seemed to come back into condition. I am looking for a strong 6 BCS going into a northern winter while developing next spring's calf.</p><p></p><p>The more I think about your hamburger plan, the more I think 2 wrongs don't make a right. Taking "skinny" cows and turning them into hamburger may leave you with some pretty unattractive "skinny" hamburger. Whether you want to calve in spring or fall, they need to be in some decent condition ASAP. </p><p></p><p>There were a couple good ideas posted above about breeding them and selling in the spring and buying some cows which are bred for spring calving. But if they are too skinny to even breed you need to address the "skinny" part asap. Unless there are some other major problems, weaning may help a lot to get some condition on them, from my recent experience. Get them some daily grain too for awhile in addition to your hay. "Complete Calf" bagged blends are not cheap but will put some weight on a cow fairly quickly. Or just given them some corn, etc every day along with the hay.</p><p></p><p>Whatever you do with them in the end, I think the number 1 goal would be to wean those calves and get the cows into some condition before we get any further into a N NY winter. jmho. Good luck with whatever you choose.</p><p></p><p>Please take the comments here as constructive help.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SRBeef, post: 604580, member: 7509"] I am a beginner with cattle so I have to be careful about passing out cattle advice. One problem with your post is that you say it has been a rough year but don't really tell why you lost two calves or why 6 cows aren't bred. There may (or may not) be a lot more to the story than what you have said. You don't mention how old your calves are, etc. etc. You do say thay are "big". I will give you the benefit of the doubt that there were some circumstances that caused these multiple problems. I did notice a real drop off in the condition of my cows in the month os before Nov 1 weaning. Nursing a large calf evidently takes a lot out of a cow, especially if they are also carrying next spring's calf. I also noticed that once I did wean - get the calves off of the cows, the cows seemed to come back into condition. I am looking for a strong 6 BCS going into a northern winter while developing next spring's calf. The more I think about your hamburger plan, the more I think 2 wrongs don't make a right. Taking "skinny" cows and turning them into hamburger may leave you with some pretty unattractive "skinny" hamburger. Whether you want to calve in spring or fall, they need to be in some decent condition ASAP. There were a couple good ideas posted above about breeding them and selling in the spring and buying some cows which are bred for spring calving. But if they are too skinny to even breed you need to address the "skinny" part asap. Unless there are some other major problems, weaning may help a lot to get some condition on them, from my recent experience. Get them some daily grain too for awhile in addition to your hay. "Complete Calf" bagged blends are not cheap but will put some weight on a cow fairly quickly. Or just given them some corn, etc every day along with the hay. Whatever you do with them in the end, I think the number 1 goal would be to wean those calves and get the cows into some condition before we get any further into a N NY winter. jmho. Good luck with whatever you choose. Please take the comments here as constructive help. [/QUOTE]
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