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<blockquote data-quote="cowgirl8" data-source="post: 1205024" data-attributes="member: 22072"><p>If you get a 30 pound calf out of a mature cow, you have a problem... not sure why yall are arguing that. We dont have 30 pound calves out of our mature cows unless its a preemie, and then its low birth weight. You arent going to find any commercial guys who want average newborn size anywhere near 100 pounds. Are commercial guys going to have 100 pounders, yes....do we want 100 pounders, no.... Maybe you guys have to start your calves out that big to even out the weaning weights, but we dont. We breed for easy births and high weaning weights. Been there done the hard births with the old school sims...back then we did have lots of big calves and amazingly our weaning weights are more with the smaller than sim calves now..</p><p>And no i did not say our heifers had trouble with 30 pound calves. We breed to LBW angus for small first calves. If you read back, since we've been using the LBW bulls, we have almost 0 pulling of first time calves.. I said one year we had very small heifer calves and every one of them was spunky and healthy. Last year they averaged 50.....and i'm sure they'd handle 70 pounds like RBB, but, go for a bull that throws a bigger calf and you dont know who is going to have trouble until they have trouble. Loose a few calves, cull some heifers because they had to have one pulled or lose a calf makes it expensive for those 70 pounders who probably are going to wean out the same because their mothers wont milk enough....getting a LBW bull just makes that first year easy on them.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="cowgirl8, post: 1205024, member: 22072"] If you get a 30 pound calf out of a mature cow, you have a problem... not sure why yall are arguing that. We dont have 30 pound calves out of our mature cows unless its a preemie, and then its low birth weight. You arent going to find any commercial guys who want average newborn size anywhere near 100 pounds. Are commercial guys going to have 100 pounders, yes....do we want 100 pounders, no.... Maybe you guys have to start your calves out that big to even out the weaning weights, but we dont. We breed for easy births and high weaning weights. Been there done the hard births with the old school sims...back then we did have lots of big calves and amazingly our weaning weights are more with the smaller than sim calves now.. And no i did not say our heifers had trouble with 30 pound calves. We breed to LBW angus for small first calves. If you read back, since we've been using the LBW bulls, we have almost 0 pulling of first time calves.. I said one year we had very small heifer calves and every one of them was spunky and healthy. Last year they averaged 50.....and i'm sure they'd handle 70 pounds like RBB, but, go for a bull that throws a bigger calf and you dont know who is going to have trouble until they have trouble. Loose a few calves, cull some heifers because they had to have one pulled or lose a calf makes it expensive for those 70 pounders who probably are going to wean out the same because their mothers wont milk enough....getting a LBW bull just makes that first year easy on them. [/QUOTE]
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