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<blockquote data-quote="J Hoy" data-source="post: 1756073" data-attributes="member: 16398"><p>Hippy Rancher, regarding this statement "it is one thing to advise people with what may have seemed to work for one, personally but it is another to couch it as some kind of scientifically established fact," The Calc. Phos. was used by lots of people on themselves, on their children with underdeveloped bones and on their livestock, horse foals, goats, cattle, llama and chickens, geese and ducks. All who reported back to me reported success on correcting whatever health issue for which they were using the Calc. Phos. A whole lot of placebo effects, I guess. Just how does a placebo effect work on a baby bird or a baby deer, goat or calf? I have always wondered that! </p><p></p><p>And regarding your question about our peer reviewed published studies. Many researchers have referenced them in their papers. Veterinary academics and non-affiliated biologists have referenced our published studies and the South Dakota study published in Nature was based on our first two published studies. Our data on the sudden appearance of previously unknown birth defects and the prevalence at the time of presentation were presented by scientists to entire conventions of doctors, veterinarians, biologists, etc. </p><p></p><p>Regarding the four published studies, we submitted them to the journal that published them and they had them peer reviewed and then published them. None of the four published studies were rejected. Finally, regarding your statement, "and when one does advance their personal experiences on public forums they should not be surprised nor offended when others comment or even refute their position." I have been neither surprised nor offended. The people on CattleToday have been much nicer than most people I have dealt with here in our neck of the woods. I have tried very hard to answer all of your questions. You are correct, I certainly get criticized a great deal as you have noticed - LOL. Thank you again for your questions and being nice.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="J Hoy, post: 1756073, member: 16398"] Hippy Rancher, regarding this statement "it is one thing to advise people with what may have seemed to work for one, personally but it is another to couch it as some kind of scientifically established fact," The Calc. Phos. was used by lots of people on themselves, on their children with underdeveloped bones and on their livestock, horse foals, goats, cattle, llama and chickens, geese and ducks. All who reported back to me reported success on correcting whatever health issue for which they were using the Calc. Phos. A whole lot of placebo effects, I guess. Just how does a placebo effect work on a baby bird or a baby deer, goat or calf? I have always wondered that! And regarding your question about our peer reviewed published studies. Many researchers have referenced them in their papers. Veterinary academics and non-affiliated biologists have referenced our published studies and the South Dakota study published in Nature was based on our first two published studies. Our data on the sudden appearance of previously unknown birth defects and the prevalence at the time of presentation were presented by scientists to entire conventions of doctors, veterinarians, biologists, etc. Regarding the four published studies, we submitted them to the journal that published them and they had them peer reviewed and then published them. None of the four published studies were rejected. Finally, regarding your statement, "and when one does advance their personal experiences on public forums they should not be surprised nor offended when others comment or even refute their position." I have been neither surprised nor offended. The people on CattleToday have been much nicer than most people I have dealt with here in our neck of the woods. I have tried very hard to answer all of your questions. You are correct, I certainly get criticized a great deal as you have noticed - LOL. Thank you again for your questions and being nice. [/QUOTE]
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