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<blockquote data-quote="Andrew" data-source="post: 251161" data-attributes="member: 918"><p>Thanks for the advice OL JR,</p><p>I paid $35 for the hay two years ago and was feeding one bail every other day to about 8 cows. My neighbor sold it to me and delivered it. The same one with the $9K proposal. He's a great guy and I respect him but the $9K spooked me.</p><p></p><p>Also, the hay was put out throughout the pasture and made spots that nothing grew on for months. I had to burn it to get anything to grow on it again. The hay was just Johnson grass with a lot of stem.</p><p></p><p>Last winter, I had around 16 cows and I just rotated them on 2 pastures: 40ac, 20ac and 20ac. They didn't do great but did ok. I also didn't feed any hay at all. One old cow died but that was the worst of it. I also sold 4 other cows that were just too old and skinny. However, the rest of the cows were nice and plump and all on stockpiled native grass. Additionally, I have about 15 ac in tall trees and creeks that grows really nice winter grass. I assume its wild oats or something similar.</p><p></p><p>I just bought some more cows that brought me up to 15 cows again. </p><p></p><p>Bottom line is I did very well last winter without grass-- in my opinion. My mistake two years ago was not rotating them and just leaving the whole place open. Last Winter I also wormed them with two of the Deworming blocks and that seemed to make a big difference. Grass didn't grow for the most part of the land but the stockpiled one was more efficiently utilized.</p><p></p><p></p><p>As far as the Tifton-85 I now have, its on 40 acres but the USDA is only paying me for 33ac. I'm out about $7K or so in everythig from soil preparation to springs, sprigging and weed spray etc... The USDA is paying some but I haven't received it yet so I don't know how that will go.</p><p></p><p>The grass looks nice and its like Hulk vs Woody Allen when you compare it with the Coastal bermuda side-by-side; at least in size. Although I think the Coastal spreads a lot faster and makes a better cover. This I see because I already had a little spot with Coastal before and it got polwed under and sprigged with the Tifton-85 and the Coastal came up much faster and more aggressive.</p><p></p><p>Another interesting point about the Tifton-85 is that its sweet. I've taken a piece and chewed it and its very sweet and juicy. The Coastal tastes like....well, grass.</p><p></p><p>Thanks,</p><p>Andrew</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Andrew, post: 251161, member: 918"] Thanks for the advice OL JR, I paid $35 for the hay two years ago and was feeding one bail every other day to about 8 cows. My neighbor sold it to me and delivered it. The same one with the $9K proposal. He's a great guy and I respect him but the $9K spooked me. Also, the hay was put out throughout the pasture and made spots that nothing grew on for months. I had to burn it to get anything to grow on it again. The hay was just Johnson grass with a lot of stem. Last winter, I had around 16 cows and I just rotated them on 2 pastures: 40ac, 20ac and 20ac. They didn't do great but did ok. I also didn't feed any hay at all. One old cow died but that was the worst of it. I also sold 4 other cows that were just too old and skinny. However, the rest of the cows were nice and plump and all on stockpiled native grass. Additionally, I have about 15 ac in tall trees and creeks that grows really nice winter grass. I assume its wild oats or something similar. I just bought some more cows that brought me up to 15 cows again. Bottom line is I did very well last winter without grass-- in my opinion. My mistake two years ago was not rotating them and just leaving the whole place open. Last Winter I also wormed them with two of the Deworming blocks and that seemed to make a big difference. Grass didn't grow for the most part of the land but the stockpiled one was more efficiently utilized. As far as the Tifton-85 I now have, its on 40 acres but the USDA is only paying me for 33ac. I'm out about $7K or so in everythig from soil preparation to springs, sprigging and weed spray etc... The USDA is paying some but I haven't received it yet so I don't know how that will go. The grass looks nice and its like Hulk vs Woody Allen when you compare it with the Coastal bermuda side-by-side; at least in size. Although I think the Coastal spreads a lot faster and makes a better cover. This I see because I already had a little spot with Coastal before and it got polwed under and sprigged with the Tifton-85 and the Coastal came up much faster and more aggressive. Another interesting point about the Tifton-85 is that its sweet. I've taken a piece and chewed it and its very sweet and juicy. The Coastal tastes like....well, grass. Thanks, Andrew [/QUOTE]
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