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<blockquote data-quote="Son of Butch" data-source="post: 1492931" data-attributes="member: 14585"><p>The Red Wagyu are much beefier and better looking than the drowned rat appearance of the blacks.</p><p>But when you open them up they don't have the marbling quality of the blacks....especially the black Tajima bloodline.</p><p>I have had 3 calves sired by the red wagyu sire Umemaru.... (all 3 spooky high headed runners)</p><p></p><p>The traditional Japanese breeders divide the black bloodlines in to 4 groups, A, B, C, D and cross them in that order.</p><p></p><p>Group A are the best milking (none of the blacks produce all that much milk) and cross them with Group B or D</p><p>Group B are 100% Tajima the highest marbling bloodline, but they are also the smallest and slowest growing</p><p>Group C are the largest framed, fastest growing, lowest marbling and used on B and or AB to put frame and growth </p><p>back into them</p><p>Group D is the 2nd best marbling most often a high % Tajima </p><p>and repeat</p><p></p><p>Traditionally A is not crossed with the C bloodline and B is not a traditional cross with D</p><p>I've used Holstein, Simmental, Angus and some crossbreds as my group A starting base. </p><p>(Definitely not a Japanese tradition, but it's what I had)</p><p>On non-wagyu cows I would recommend a group B or D sire as the first cross to start.</p><p></p><p>From what I've seen of the 4 groups I would rate most all of the Red Wagyu sires as most like the group C sires</p><p>While the reds are definitely the most appealing on the hoof, I would not recommend starting the 1st cross with them.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Son of Butch, post: 1492931, member: 14585"] The Red Wagyu are much beefier and better looking than the drowned rat appearance of the blacks. But when you open them up they don't have the marbling quality of the blacks....especially the black Tajima bloodline. I have had 3 calves sired by the red wagyu sire Umemaru.... (all 3 spooky high headed runners) The traditional Japanese breeders divide the black bloodlines in to 4 groups, A, B, C, D and cross them in that order. Group A are the best milking (none of the blacks produce all that much milk) and cross them with Group B or D Group B are 100% Tajima the highest marbling bloodline, but they are also the smallest and slowest growing Group C are the largest framed, fastest growing, lowest marbling and used on B and or AB to put frame and growth back into them Group D is the 2nd best marbling most often a high % Tajima and repeat Traditionally A is not crossed with the C bloodline and B is not a traditional cross with D I've used Holstein, Simmental, Angus and some crossbreds as my group A starting base. (Definitely not a Japanese tradition, but it's what I had) On non-wagyu cows I would recommend a group B or D sire as the first cross to start. From what I've seen of the 4 groups I would rate most all of the Red Wagyu sires as most like the group C sires While the reds are definitely the most appealing on the hoof, I would not recommend starting the 1st cross with them. [/QUOTE]
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