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<blockquote data-quote="Ebenezer" data-source="post: 1387617" data-attributes="member: 24565"><p>Yes, and they always are. Hormones.</p><p></p><p> Yes. But in how many years? Yet with same feeding regime. Example: weaning data on bulls here in past years calculated to larger FS and more growth than measured at 12 months. Reason: EPDs are based on full expression of growth while real farm data on fescue based pastures created an environmental restriction.</p><p></p><p> Do not compare to other breeds or lines. Each line has it's own growth curve, milk production, environment, ...</p><p></p><p>Sale managers are selling mainstream cattle and not linebred cattle. Nobody walks in a Whole Foods store and asks for the genetic, cheapest, run of the mill. While on this subject: there are 3 kinds of ads: market presence, sale emphasis and educational. Market presence: create a recognizable name by the repetition of merely being seen month after month and year after year: "Hey I've hear of them". Sales: Animals and stuff ready to go and here they are. Less used: educational - offer info to producers why you are doing what you are doing and what your animals do for you and what they can do for them. If you stay with linebred animals you will become more distant from the mainstream (and sale managers) and your ads will become more educational to reach others with what you know and how it can help them. Just stick with facts and truth and you will gain market share but the breeding grunt work (and time) has to precede the sales.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ebenezer, post: 1387617, member: 24565"] Yes, and they always are. Hormones. Yes. But in how many years? Yet with same feeding regime. Example: weaning data on bulls here in past years calculated to larger FS and more growth than measured at 12 months. Reason: EPDs are based on full expression of growth while real farm data on fescue based pastures created an environmental restriction. Do not compare to other breeds or lines. Each line has it's own growth curve, milk production, environment, ... Sale managers are selling mainstream cattle and not linebred cattle. Nobody walks in a Whole Foods store and asks for the genetic, cheapest, run of the mill. While on this subject: there are 3 kinds of ads: market presence, sale emphasis and educational. Market presence: create a recognizable name by the repetition of merely being seen month after month and year after year: "Hey I've hear of them". Sales: Animals and stuff ready to go and here they are. Less used: educational - offer info to producers why you are doing what you are doing and what your animals do for you and what they can do for them. If you stay with linebred animals you will become more distant from the mainstream (and sale managers) and your ads will become more educational to reach others with what you know and how it can help them. Just stick with facts and truth and you will gain market share but the breeding grunt work (and time) has to precede the sales. [/QUOTE]
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