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<blockquote data-quote="Ebenezer" data-source="post: 1387505" data-attributes="member: 24565"><p>SE USA, no creep, no summer annuals, decent pastures: 40 to 45%, or select for high milk EPDs and feed, or creep feed and know where that heads. You will occasionally have a first calf heifer that was lighter weight to make or break 50%</p><p></p><p>[code]I might be able to sell some mid 5 weights with tight pedigrees if I can find buyers that understand prepotency. But I know a lot of commercial breeders who are pounded with "more-more-more" at every cattlemens meeting, in every sales catalog, and by their peers. So much so that they are willing to keep their calfs longer than they should just to have the "right weights" on their sale day.There ears are not filled with things like prepotency as much as outcross I dont think.</p><p>[/code]</p><p>Mindset - competing with the big boy and terminal traits. Fine if you plan to lose at linebreeding. Want to win that game without linebreeding, hob-knob with the greats, breed for terminal traits and be one of many. The purpose of linebreeding has to focus on the betterment of the cow and the future results of prepotent bulls in commercial herds or you are wasting your time. You need a new and better slogan that, "As big as yours". Like a long-term linbreeder told me, "Commercial producers sell pounds. I sell breeding stock." You are not taking the broad and easy way to even consider linebreeding. You will not sell them by the same techniques and slogans or to the same people (at first) as average registered cattle.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ebenezer, post: 1387505, member: 24565"] SE USA, no creep, no summer annuals, decent pastures: 40 to 45%, or select for high milk EPDs and feed, or creep feed and know where that heads. You will occasionally have a first calf heifer that was lighter weight to make or break 50% [code]I might be able to sell some mid 5 weights with tight pedigrees if I can find buyers that understand prepotency. But I know a lot of commercial breeders who are pounded with "more-more-more" at every cattlemens meeting, in every sales catalog, and by their peers. So much so that they are willing to keep their calfs longer than they should just to have the "right weights" on their sale day.There ears are not filled with things like prepotency as much as outcross I dont think. [/code] Mindset - competing with the big boy and terminal traits. Fine if you plan to lose at linebreeding. Want to win that game without linebreeding, hob-knob with the greats, breed for terminal traits and be one of many. The purpose of linebreeding has to focus on the betterment of the cow and the future results of prepotent bulls in commercial herds or you are wasting your time. You need a new and better slogan that, "As big as yours". Like a long-term linbreeder told me, "Commercial producers sell pounds. I sell breeding stock." You are not taking the broad and easy way to even consider linebreeding. You will not sell them by the same techniques and slogans or to the same people (at first) as average registered cattle. [/QUOTE]
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