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<blockquote data-quote="cotton1" data-source="post: 1386109" data-attributes="member: 14689"><p>City Guy-I'm sure if a linbreeding slump occurred it can be toughed out. I'm almost positive that there are several Hereford, and Black Angus herds that have made it work for quite some time. Myself, I'm just about one year in on this thing hence the search for answers on the subject.</p><p></p><p>I can see some of the points you guys make. Maybe I will have to settle for lighter weaning weights, after all I don't want to make huge cattle. I did not mention that before, but id say frame 6 is ideal to me. So should a frame 5 or frame 6 cow produce calf's that wean as much as a frame 7 or 8?</p><p></p><p>Just to remind folks of my original post, I was looking for ways to use the info on a inbreed calculators results for my herd. I was hoping that the %blood values could be used to keep undesirables at a lower risk for "showing up" in the next generation. Its been stated here that maybe 4 generations really make a difference in the next calf, so maybe breeding in traits works better than breeding them out.</p><p></p><p>Like I said, I have plenty of questions. I'm not just seeking answers to these questions on the computer either, I am putting trial and error in play on my farm as well. I also know that I may be able to sell cows that had 500lb weaning weights, but I don't think I could get folks to bite on a bull with a light weaning weight. At the Ocala sale in October, the buyers didn't seem to know or care about the blood lines of my bulls. Just the actual birth weight, weaning weight, and conformation.Thus to me, 600lbs weaning weight is the invisible bar of acceptance I have noticed.</p><p></p><p>I asked my wife about posting the pictures, so maybe she will get time soon.OH yeah, I do think using a bull from your better cow lines is a good idea. I plan to replace my current bull with one from one of my donor cows of which there are 3. They are another part of my story, as I am also limiting the cow lines to an extent. Current bull is a youngin though, just bout 3 years old.I hope he is the last bull I purchase from other producers. We shall see.</p><p></p><p>Thanks for the discussion, I'm enjoying it.</p><p></p><p>Cotton1</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="cotton1, post: 1386109, member: 14689"] City Guy-I'm sure if a linbreeding slump occurred it can be toughed out. I'm almost positive that there are several Hereford, and Black Angus herds that have made it work for quite some time. Myself, I'm just about one year in on this thing hence the search for answers on the subject. I can see some of the points you guys make. Maybe I will have to settle for lighter weaning weights, after all I don't want to make huge cattle. I did not mention that before, but id say frame 6 is ideal to me. So should a frame 5 or frame 6 cow produce calf's that wean as much as a frame 7 or 8? Just to remind folks of my original post, I was looking for ways to use the info on a inbreed calculators results for my herd. I was hoping that the %blood values could be used to keep undesirables at a lower risk for "showing up" in the next generation. Its been stated here that maybe 4 generations really make a difference in the next calf, so maybe breeding in traits works better than breeding them out. Like I said, I have plenty of questions. I'm not just seeking answers to these questions on the computer either, I am putting trial and error in play on my farm as well. I also know that I may be able to sell cows that had 500lb weaning weights, but I don't think I could get folks to bite on a bull with a light weaning weight. At the Ocala sale in October, the buyers didn't seem to know or care about the blood lines of my bulls. Just the actual birth weight, weaning weight, and conformation.Thus to me, 600lbs weaning weight is the invisible bar of acceptance I have noticed. I asked my wife about posting the pictures, so maybe she will get time soon.OH yeah, I do think using a bull from your better cow lines is a good idea. I plan to replace my current bull with one from one of my donor cows of which there are 3. They are another part of my story, as I am also limiting the cow lines to an extent. Current bull is a youngin though, just bout 3 years old.I hope he is the last bull I purchase from other producers. We shall see. Thanks for the discussion, I'm enjoying it. Cotton1 [/QUOTE]
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