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<blockquote data-quote="Katpau" data-source="post: 1227209" data-attributes="member: 9933"><p>We only run calve about 50 cows, so the numbers are high. Our problem seemed to start in 2012. We had an AI bred cow have a still born calf on day 260 of gestation. She showed no signs of being ready to calf the night before. Another cow lost a full term calf whose head was back. It was a very difficult delivery, and I suspect the calf was dead inside her for several days. A third cow had a small weak calf with a bleeding umbilical we had to tie off. That one recovered. In 2013 there were no problems, but last year we lost three and had one calf (a twin) born with a deformed mouth. Two of the deaths were a set of twins. We had to pull the first one out of an older cow who had large calves in the past without assistance. It was a very hard pull, even with the calf puller. The calf was dead, and appeared to have been dead for days. We should have checked for a twin, but the calf was 90 pounds and it was dark out, raining, and about 35 degrees. We were exhausted, and I was sure there could not be a twin to such a large calf. The next morning we found her with another dead calf half way out. That one looked like it might have been alive, but it was still in the sack and the cow had given up. It fell out when she stood up, before we even got to her. A few days latter a heifer gave birth to a tiny dead calf with white eyes. </p><p></p><p>I am hoping the lab will reveal something that can be fixed, but I am afraid we still won't know. It took me all day to get in contact with the Vet. My regular Vet was off for the day, and the other was busy with emergencies. My regular Vet has given me his private cell phone number, and he did call me back, even though it was his day off. We don't have cell service on the ranch, and I played phone tag with him on the home phone much of the day, but finally talked to him that evening. I offered to bring everything into the clinic, but he said he would rather come out. He came out the next morning. We got the blood and placenta, and cut up the calf. The lab is over 100 miles away. We sent everything that day, but it was too late on a Friday, so nothing was looked at until 4 days after the birth.</p><p></p><p>My cows are on about 40 acres of gentle hills with oak trees during the last two to three months before calving. Much of the ranch has Pine, so I keep them in this pasture to avoid that. With this number of animals on such a small area, there is very little forage, so I am feeding them hay, alfalfa, and some Rye grass screening pellets. I test my hay and feed them a diet that is balanced for protein, TDN and all minerals. We have free choice salt and minerals balanced for this area available at all times. The tests showed their selenium levels were within a good range, but their copper was just a tiny bit high. The Vet said it was not enough to be a concern. Copper & selenium are extremely low in this area, so I was supplementing it with a mineral premix. The cows look really good.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Katpau, post: 1227209, member: 9933"] We only run calve about 50 cows, so the numbers are high. Our problem seemed to start in 2012. We had an AI bred cow have a still born calf on day 260 of gestation. She showed no signs of being ready to calf the night before. Another cow lost a full term calf whose head was back. It was a very difficult delivery, and I suspect the calf was dead inside her for several days. A third cow had a small weak calf with a bleeding umbilical we had to tie off. That one recovered. In 2013 there were no problems, but last year we lost three and had one calf (a twin) born with a deformed mouth. Two of the deaths were a set of twins. We had to pull the first one out of an older cow who had large calves in the past without assistance. It was a very hard pull, even with the calf puller. The calf was dead, and appeared to have been dead for days. We should have checked for a twin, but the calf was 90 pounds and it was dark out, raining, and about 35 degrees. We were exhausted, and I was sure there could not be a twin to such a large calf. The next morning we found her with another dead calf half way out. That one looked like it might have been alive, but it was still in the sack and the cow had given up. It fell out when she stood up, before we even got to her. A few days latter a heifer gave birth to a tiny dead calf with white eyes. I am hoping the lab will reveal something that can be fixed, but I am afraid we still won't know. It took me all day to get in contact with the Vet. My regular Vet was off for the day, and the other was busy with emergencies. My regular Vet has given me his private cell phone number, and he did call me back, even though it was his day off. We don't have cell service on the ranch, and I played phone tag with him on the home phone much of the day, but finally talked to him that evening. I offered to bring everything into the clinic, but he said he would rather come out. He came out the next morning. We got the blood and placenta, and cut up the calf. The lab is over 100 miles away. We sent everything that day, but it was too late on a Friday, so nothing was looked at until 4 days after the birth. My cows are on about 40 acres of gentle hills with oak trees during the last two to three months before calving. Much of the ranch has Pine, so I keep them in this pasture to avoid that. With this number of animals on such a small area, there is very little forage, so I am feeding them hay, alfalfa, and some Rye grass screening pellets. I test my hay and feed them a diet that is balanced for protein, TDN and all minerals. We have free choice salt and minerals balanced for this area available at all times. The tests showed their selenium levels were within a good range, but their copper was just a tiny bit high. The Vet said it was not enough to be a concern. Copper & selenium are extremely low in this area, so I was supplementing it with a mineral premix. The cows look really good. [/QUOTE]
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