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<blockquote data-quote="Brute 23" data-source="post: 1699297" data-attributes="member: 6291"><p>You would think that based off of supply and demand principals but it does not work like that here. Some people lease land at prices that does not work unless they bleed the land dry. They barely shred it any thing. The bleed them dry and then dump them to the land owner pretty much unusable. </p><p></p><p>I'm attempting to lease a place from my own family right now. We run cattle and another uncle runs cattle, 3 other family members are not involved in cattle. The other uncle use to have it leased but does not want to any more. He is up in age and has let every thing get run down.</p><p></p><p>The rest of the family comes to me to lease it. I have to sit down and show them the hard truth about what it will lease for in that condition. I bring my numbers, show them why I need a long term lease, why the annual rent is what it is, explain why things are written in the lease to cover both them and me, etc. Rememeber my mother is an owner also who is talking about turning it over to us any day so I wrote it to cover both sides in case I dont lease it we have a format for the next potential lessee. </p><p></p><p>The uncle who had it leased is fighting every one at every turn. He has not logic or number to back any thing. All he can say is no one leases like that. He brought out 3 leases he has that are trash, and only 2 are active. He is losing money on one for sure and the other only works by trashing the place out like he did ours. I brought out 5 active that looked almost identical to the one I provided, and said I could provide more upon request. Most of my family have been to all those places, they know how good they look, that's why they asked me.</p><p></p><p>All my uncle did was shoot himself in the foot and show how bad he is as making these leases and managing money as a whole. He has subsidized losing money on cattle with another job and inheritance. He likes to drive around in his dually with his cattle trailer and talk cattle though.</p><p></p><p>He is the exact problem that you will run in to leasing around here... all hat... no calculator.</p><p></p><p>I will say the tide is turning slowly IMO. More people are buying or inheriting property that are more informed and care more about the management of it, not just a check. The is to the quality lessee's advantage IMO.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Brute 23, post: 1699297, member: 6291"] You would think that based off of supply and demand principals but it does not work like that here. Some people lease land at prices that does not work unless they bleed the land dry. They barely shred it any thing. The bleed them dry and then dump them to the land owner pretty much unusable. I'm attempting to lease a place from my own family right now. We run cattle and another uncle runs cattle, 3 other family members are not involved in cattle. The other uncle use to have it leased but does not want to any more. He is up in age and has let every thing get run down. The rest of the family comes to me to lease it. I have to sit down and show them the hard truth about what it will lease for in that condition. I bring my numbers, show them why I need a long term lease, why the annual rent is what it is, explain why things are written in the lease to cover both them and me, etc. Rememeber my mother is an owner also who is talking about turning it over to us any day so I wrote it to cover both sides in case I dont lease it we have a format for the next potential lessee. The uncle who had it leased is fighting every one at every turn. He has not logic or number to back any thing. All he can say is no one leases like that. He brought out 3 leases he has that are trash, and only 2 are active. He is losing money on one for sure and the other only works by trashing the place out like he did ours. I brought out 5 active that looked almost identical to the one I provided, and said I could provide more upon request. Most of my family have been to all those places, they know how good they look, that's why they asked me. All my uncle did was shoot himself in the foot and show how bad he is as making these leases and managing money as a whole. He has subsidized losing money on cattle with another job and inheritance. He likes to drive around in his dually with his cattle trailer and talk cattle though. He is the exact problem that you will run in to leasing around here... all hat... no calculator. I will say the tide is turning slowly IMO. More people are buying or inheriting property that are more informed and care more about the management of it, not just a check. The is to the quality lessee's advantage IMO. [/QUOTE]
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