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<blockquote data-quote="Jeanne - Simme Valley" data-source="post: 1795794" data-attributes="member: 968"><p>CV said "I've got a gray/chocolate simangus bull I'm keeping intact. Hope to breed with him this Fall. Gonna be asking a lot of a young bull. He's good blood. Sire was short legged and slab sided."</p><p>I wouldn't be worried about the color of the bull or the "rattail" people are talking about. I would worry about the "SIRE was short legged and SLAB SIDED".</p><p>Whatever your calf looks like - he WILL throw some of his calves to look like his sire.</p><p>I guess I fall into the category of "purebred breeder that shows". I sell my calves for a LOT of money. Just sold a 7 month old heifer calf for $5000 and a nursing 2 month old heifer calf for $4500 (pick of my heifer calves) - BOTH to separate families - both sight unseen. This is not something"I" would do - but, it says a lot about my reputation.</p><p>There are producers out there that truly care about producing QUALITY, WORKING cows/bulls/calves. I have seen people buy high dollar calves/bred yearlings and they fall apart because they are managed a lot differently at the new home. You cannot buy from a farm that feeds grain to their cows and creeps the calves from the day they are born. You cannot convince me ANYONE raises 1000# weanlings on grass and milk. Not very many farms have good milking momma's and great grazing like I do. And I am hard pressed to get 750#-800# weaned bull calves.</p><p>I know I shouldn't brag about what I get for my cattle, but I want to make a point. My cattle go to herds and IMPROVE them. I have LOTS of repeat customers. To the point of taking orders for bull calves before they are born.</p><p>Guaranteed I am not the only breeder out there making my cows make me a good living. My cows are my most important equation on this farm. I have cows that I can breed a billie goat to and they will give me a good calf.</p><p>If you are looking to improve your genetics, there are breeders out there. You have to do your homework and find a real working farm in the same environment as your farm. Although, I have to say, I have sold all over the US - without complaints of their performance at their new home.</p><p>changing the subject - I have never had a "rattail" calf and I have had tons of diluted calves over a span of maybe 20-30 some years when I started.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jeanne - Simme Valley, post: 1795794, member: 968"] CV said "I've got a gray/chocolate simangus bull I'm keeping intact. Hope to breed with him this Fall. Gonna be asking a lot of a young bull. He's good blood. Sire was short legged and slab sided." I wouldn't be worried about the color of the bull or the "rattail" people are talking about. I would worry about the "SIRE was short legged and SLAB SIDED". Whatever your calf looks like - he WILL throw some of his calves to look like his sire. I guess I fall into the category of "purebred breeder that shows". I sell my calves for a LOT of money. Just sold a 7 month old heifer calf for $5000 and a nursing 2 month old heifer calf for $4500 (pick of my heifer calves) - BOTH to separate families - both sight unseen. This is not something"I" would do - but, it says a lot about my reputation. There are producers out there that truly care about producing QUALITY, WORKING cows/bulls/calves. I have seen people buy high dollar calves/bred yearlings and they fall apart because they are managed a lot differently at the new home. You cannot buy from a farm that feeds grain to their cows and creeps the calves from the day they are born. You cannot convince me ANYONE raises 1000# weanlings on grass and milk. Not very many farms have good milking momma's and great grazing like I do. And I am hard pressed to get 750#-800# weaned bull calves. I know I shouldn't brag about what I get for my cattle, but I want to make a point. My cattle go to herds and IMPROVE them. I have LOTS of repeat customers. To the point of taking orders for bull calves before they are born. Guaranteed I am not the only breeder out there making my cows make me a good living. My cows are my most important equation on this farm. I have cows that I can breed a billie goat to and they will give me a good calf. If you are looking to improve your genetics, there are breeders out there. You have to do your homework and find a real working farm in the same environment as your farm. Although, I have to say, I have sold all over the US - without complaints of their performance at their new home. changing the subject - I have never had a "rattail" calf and I have had tons of diluted calves over a span of maybe 20-30 some years when I started. [/QUOTE]
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