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<blockquote data-quote="Anonymous" data-source="post: 14634"><p>OK, you're hitting too close to home with that SFP talk! Lord knows I've has some of those – ha. You might be right, darn it. You're definitely right about the multi year aspect, but we have to measure somehow and I don't know a better way than a year at a time.</p><p></p><p>I still want to crunch some hard numbers. Anybody want to throw some out? For example, what is a fair figure to use for the PER HEAD value premium of a uniform lot of calves – steers and heifers – vs selling thru the ring as they come up? I mean uniform in weight, not looks.</p><p></p><p>Yup, just when I had this thought thru for the umpteenth time, and was getting comfortable with the status quo again, you folks had to re-open this whole can of worms. I've got to do some more thinking, dang it. It hurts when I do that.</p><p></p><p>Craig</p><p></p><p>> This is a multiyear business and</p><p>> you can't look at the bottom line</p><p>> for one year without considering</p><p>> the cumulatice effect over a</p><p>> number of years. Is it easier or</p><p>> harder on the ladies to have the</p><p>> old man floating around all the</p><p>> time, i.e., does it make them more</p><p>> or less efficent, or have no</p><p>> effect at all? Even with mixed</p><p>> cows, there should be a degree of</p><p>> consistancy by age from any given</p><p>> bull. If there isn't, why would</p><p>> you use the bull? I'm sure no</p><p>> expert on bulls, I help others</p><p>> with their herds that us them,</p><p>> went and picked one up for a guy</p><p>> yesterday, but I do all AI, always</p><p>> have, always will. I don't like</p><p>> the extra burden of having a bull</p><p>> around that I need to worry about</p><p>> the welfare of, or the problems of</p><p>> insurance if he gets out and goes</p><p>> a visiting. One herd here only</p><p>> runs around 300 mother cows. They</p><p>> synch everything in three day</p><p>> periods. They AI by observed heat,</p><p>> after everything has been bred by</p><p>> heat, those not observed are</p><p>> injected again and bred by time.</p><p>> At preg check, anything that is</p><p>> open grows wheels. They do them in</p><p>> groups of 50. Calving season is a</p><p>> real killer labor wise. But ut's</p><p>> over in a couple of weeks at the</p><p>> most so he can get on with the</p><p>> haying, etc. Every management</p><p>> method has to take into account</p><p>> what works for them. If you are</p><p>> satisfied with the way things are</p><p>> and can't come up with a better</p><p>> solution it's best to stick with</p><p>> what you've got. If you're not</p><p>> sold on another way as being</p><p>> better it very well may become a</p><p>> "SFP" (Self fulfilling</p><p>> prophecy) and doomed to fail.</p><p></p><p>> dunmovin farms</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Anonymous, post: 14634"] OK, you’re hitting too close to home with that SFP talk! Lord knows I’ve has some of those – ha. You might be right, darn it. You’re definitely right about the multi year aspect, but we have to measure somehow and I don’t know a better way than a year at a time. I still want to crunch some hard numbers. Anybody want to throw some out? For example, what is a fair figure to use for the PER HEAD value premium of a uniform lot of calves – steers and heifers – vs selling thru the ring as they come up? I mean uniform in weight, not looks. Yup, just when I had this thought thru for the umpteenth time, and was getting comfortable with the status quo again, you folks had to re-open this whole can of worms. I’ve got to do some more thinking, dang it. It hurts when I do that. Craig > This is a multiyear business and > you can't look at the bottom line > for one year without considering > the cumulatice effect over a > number of years. Is it easier or > harder on the ladies to have the > old man floating around all the > time, i.e., does it make them more > or less efficent, or have no > effect at all? Even with mixed > cows, there should be a degree of > consistancy by age from any given > bull. If there isn't, why would > you use the bull? I'm sure no > expert on bulls, I help others > with their herds that us them, > went and picked one up for a guy > yesterday, but I do all AI, always > have, always will. I don't like > the extra burden of having a bull > around that I need to worry about > the welfare of, or the problems of > insurance if he gets out and goes > a visiting. One herd here only > runs around 300 mother cows. They > synch everything in three day > periods. They AI by observed heat, > after everything has been bred by > heat, those not observed are > injected again and bred by time. > At preg check, anything that is > open grows wheels. They do them in > groups of 50. Calving season is a > real killer labor wise. But ut's > over in a couple of weeks at the > most so he can get on with the > haying, etc. Every management > method has to take into account > what works for them. If you are > satisfied with the way things are > and can't come up with a better > solution it's best to stick with > what you've got. If you're not > sold on another way as being > better it very well may become a > "SFP" (Self fulfilling > prophecy) and doomed to fail. > dunmovin farms [/QUOTE]
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