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<blockquote data-quote="Brandonm2" data-source="post: 454294" data-attributes="member: 2095"><p>You are right; BUT that is a very dangerous attitude long term. MOST cow/calf guys DO market through the local sale barn and have no idea what their calves carcass traits ARE like or ARE NOT like. That does not mean that none of them will ever ask about carcass traits during the marketing process. Also it is possible that some do or will retain ownership at the feedlot or they may ultrasound a kid's show steer. I would hate for the cattle's performance to in any way disapoint a regular customer. </p><p></p><p>Also if I read this board right Michigan has mandated EID tags and premises ID. I think MANDATORY nationwide EID tags and premises ID is likely in the near future. I think it is likely that packers will start collecting data on where the good cattle and the bad cattle are coming from and assemble a database matching that info to the premises ID. WHEN there is a database (and I don't know if that is 5 or 10 years out) assembled telling order buyers that the calves from farm xyz10123445Z.* seldom grade choice and are usually yield grade 4.2 and that appears on a screen in the salebarn there WILL be a dock and the owner of the calves is probably going to blame his seedstock source. </p><p></p><p>This seems like waay waay out in the future (and it may be); but a Seedstock producer who makes a keep or cull decision on a heifer today will likely have that same cow in his herd ten years from now and bulls from that cow could easily still be siring commercial calves 16 years from now. IF you waited to the last minute to start looking at carcass traits your commercial customers COULD possibly get hammered at sale time and they may or may not come back to you when you improve your carcass performance. I am not advocating making marbling, ribeye area, and ultrasound backfat measures the primary traits one selects for; BUT given the amount of genetic lines out there you can purchase for your breeding program it does not make any sense to ignore those traits in a breeding program.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Brandonm2, post: 454294, member: 2095"] You are right; BUT that is a very dangerous attitude long term. MOST cow/calf guys DO market through the local sale barn and have no idea what their calves carcass traits ARE like or ARE NOT like. That does not mean that none of them will ever ask about carcass traits during the marketing process. Also it is possible that some do or will retain ownership at the feedlot or they may ultrasound a kid's show steer. I would hate for the cattle's performance to in any way disapoint a regular customer. Also if I read this board right Michigan has mandated EID tags and premises ID. I think MANDATORY nationwide EID tags and premises ID is likely in the near future. I think it is likely that packers will start collecting data on where the good cattle and the bad cattle are coming from and assemble a database matching that info to the premises ID. WHEN there is a database (and I don't know if that is 5 or 10 years out) assembled telling order buyers that the calves from farm xyz10123445Z.* seldom grade choice and are usually yield grade 4.2 and that appears on a screen in the salebarn there WILL be a dock and the owner of the calves is probably going to blame his seedstock source. This seems like waay waay out in the future (and it may be); but a Seedstock producer who makes a keep or cull decision on a heifer today will likely have that same cow in his herd ten years from now and bulls from that cow could easily still be siring commercial calves 16 years from now. IF you waited to the last minute to start looking at carcass traits your commercial customers COULD possibly get hammered at sale time and they may or may not come back to you when you improve your carcass performance. I am not advocating making marbling, ribeye area, and ultrasound backfat measures the primary traits one selects for; BUT given the amount of genetic lines out there you can purchase for your breeding program it does not make any sense to ignore those traits in a breeding program. [/QUOTE]
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