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<blockquote data-quote="Lucky_P" data-source="post: 787666" data-attributes="member: 12607"><p>Never heard or read of OTC being given as a treatment for bloat, and knowing its mode of action, I don't really see how it would have any helpful effect. Don't see how it could hurt anything, but don't see that it would help. Wasted $$$ and effort, imo.</p><p>Feeding tetracyclines &/or tylosin has long been shown to reduce the incidence & severity of liver abscesses due to rumen acidosis in feedlot cattle on 'hot' high-carbohydrate rations, but I doubt that it has any activity in preventing bloat.</p><p></p><p>Nuflor is absorbed OK orally, but takes longer to reach effective blood levels, and less of the total dose(65%-88%) is bioavailable. Most organisms that cause scours in calves are not in the stomach, and most of an oral dose will have been absorbed into the bloodstream before it reaches the mid-small intestine. Personally, I don't see much benefit in giving it orally as opposed to injecting it.</p><p></p><p>I'm all for 'extra-label' drug usage when it's appropriate, just so long as it's not ILLEGAL extra-label drug usage. As producers of animal products - meat & milk - we need to be very diligent in using the drugs we have correctly; violative meat/milk residues really get big headlines, and the 99.9% of us who are doing things the right way get painted with the same broad brush as the 0.1% of bad actors or dumbasses. Public perception, driven by an uninformed or hostile press can have a detrimental effect on demand and prices for our product - and the other commodities are ready and willing to capitalize on any bad news about beef or dairy. Plus, if antibiotics are misused/abused enough, some governmental agency will eventually make a move to make them unavailable to us, regardless of whether the 'science' actually warrants it or not.</p><p>Just remember the DDT ban in 1972: public uproar over Rachel Carson's <u>novel<u>, <em>Silent Spring<em>, which was NOT science based, resulted in Wm. Ruckelshaus, the first director of the EPA, instituting a ban, even though a scientific panel EPA had commissioned to study DDT found no evidence that it posed any danger(except to the insects it was used against).</em></em></u></u></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lucky_P, post: 787666, member: 12607"] Never heard or read of OTC being given as a treatment for bloat, and knowing its mode of action, I don't really see how it would have any helpful effect. Don't see how it could hurt anything, but don't see that it would help. Wasted $$$ and effort, imo. Feeding tetracyclines &/or tylosin has long been shown to reduce the incidence & severity of liver abscesses due to rumen acidosis in feedlot cattle on 'hot' high-carbohydrate rations, but I doubt that it has any activity in preventing bloat. Nuflor is absorbed OK orally, but takes longer to reach effective blood levels, and less of the total dose(65%-88%) is bioavailable. Most organisms that cause scours in calves are not in the stomach, and most of an oral dose will have been absorbed into the bloodstream before it reaches the mid-small intestine. Personally, I don't see much benefit in giving it orally as opposed to injecting it. I'm all for 'extra-label' drug usage when it's appropriate, just so long as it's not ILLEGAL extra-label drug usage. As producers of animal products - meat & milk - we need to be very diligent in using the drugs we have correctly; violative meat/milk residues really get big headlines, and the 99.9% of us who are doing things the right way get painted with the same broad brush as the 0.1% of bad actors or dumbasses. Public perception, driven by an uninformed or hostile press can have a detrimental effect on demand and prices for our product - and the other commodities are ready and willing to capitalize on any bad news about beef or dairy. Plus, if antibiotics are misused/abused enough, some governmental agency will eventually make a move to make them unavailable to us, regardless of whether the 'science' actually warrants it or not. Just remember the DDT ban in 1972: public uproar over Rachel Carson's [u]novel[u], [i]Silent Spring[i], which was NOT science based, resulted in Wm. Ruckelshaus, the first director of the EPA, instituting a ban, even though a scientific panel EPA had commissioned to study DDT found no evidence that it posed any danger(except to the insects it was used against).[/i][/i][/u][/u] [/QUOTE]
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