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<blockquote data-quote="Brandonm2" data-source="post: 382415" data-attributes="member: 2095"><p>I wouldn't worry too much about the "dirty yellow". There USED to be whole cow families in the breed that had that "off" coloration. At one time that was popular in Texas Polled Herefords. My Grandfather had a few ~frame ones like that. I don't know whether that is a "taint" from the Longhorns or the Jersey/Guernsey dairy cows of the 19th century; but it was there in the breed long before Simmentals came into the country.</p><p></p><p>As for 15G I doubt seriously that your cows or 15G are going to be 'excommunicated' from the Breed. I don't know the details of the BT CL Domino 15G stories to even comment (though looking at the pedigree the massive sea change in type between him and his sire could raise some eyebrows); but there was a lot more smoke circling Perfection and I see that he is still in the Herf data base. Northern Rancher provided some evidence of possible impropriety in the case of Titan 7777. I can't remember WHEN there wasn't talk about THAT bull.....yet Feltons Domino 774 is a direct descendent and is the progenitor of one of the hottest Hereford lines today. I don't see 774, Legend, Ozzie etc getting booted. And I doubt that the 15G descendents like Grand Finale are in any danger either. Somebody knowledgable like Camp could point out red flag sires in virtually every popular non-Line one sire's pedigree. Herefords ARE what previous generations of breeders made them to be. You either love them like they are or leave them. You don't get to go back in time to 1900 Herefords and get to do the 20th century over again.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Brandonm2, post: 382415, member: 2095"] I wouldn't worry too much about the "dirty yellow". There USED to be whole cow families in the breed that had that "off" coloration. At one time that was popular in Texas Polled Herefords. My Grandfather had a few ~frame ones like that. I don't know whether that is a "taint" from the Longhorns or the Jersey/Guernsey dairy cows of the 19th century; but it was there in the breed long before Simmentals came into the country. As for 15G I doubt seriously that your cows or 15G are going to be 'excommunicated' from the Breed. I don't know the details of the BT CL Domino 15G stories to even comment (though looking at the pedigree the massive sea change in type between him and his sire could raise some eyebrows); but there was a lot more smoke circling Perfection and I see that he is still in the Herf data base. Northern Rancher provided some evidence of possible impropriety in the case of Titan 7777. I can't remember WHEN there wasn't talk about THAT bull.....yet Feltons Domino 774 is a direct descendent and is the progenitor of one of the hottest Hereford lines today. I don't see 774, Legend, Ozzie etc getting booted. And I doubt that the 15G descendents like Grand Finale are in any danger either. Somebody knowledgable like Camp could point out red flag sires in virtually every popular non-Line one sire's pedigree. Herefords ARE what previous generations of breeders made them to be. You either love them like they are or leave them. You don't get to go back in time to 1900 Herefords and get to do the 20th century over again. [/QUOTE]
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