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<blockquote data-quote="Herefords.US" data-source="post: 381472" data-attributes="member: 3972"><p>It just makes a difference to some people, Ollie. There are some "breed purists" among a breeder's potential customer base that look upon a whole herd as suspect if just a few animals in it trace to these bulls. Just because YOU (or I) choose to "accept" these animals doesn't mean its acceptable for everyone. </p><p></p><p>I know plenty of long-time horned Hereford breeders that look upon ALL Polled Hereford genetics as "suspect". When you live in Texas, you don't have to drive far to find one that feels that way. That's probably the primary reason that we still have 2 State Hereford Breed Associations in Texas, the THA and the TPHA.</p><p></p><p>In the case of Titan 23D, several long-time Hereford breeders advised me to avoid his influence when I was getting back into the business. I've tried to follow that advice because it just seemed pragmatic to do so. The diluter gene presents a problem and its presence pretty well confirms what most people "suspected" back in the 70s, but couldn't prove. </p><p></p><p>One of these breeders that gave me that advice was a close friend of the person from the AHA that actually did the investigation on 23D. He said the AHA rep was totally convinced that there was absolutely no skulduggery involved among those involved in the breeding/importation/use of 23D. The AHA rep was certain it was an "honest" mistake...and a mistake that he was unable to prove at that time through bloodtesting the few related animals available.</p><p></p><p>One person told me that the reason more POLLED breeders are accepting of the 23D influence in the breed is because of the rumors regarding 15G and that they figure the breed's gene pool was already tainted.</p><p></p><p>So, regarding 15G, since hearing that rumor, I've been attempting to find out its basis, and how the breeders who were around during that time feel about it. I figure education would serve me a lot better than ignorance, ollie. Perhaps you disagree?</p><p></p><p>George</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Herefords.US, post: 381472, member: 3972"] It just makes a difference to some people, Ollie. There are some "breed purists" among a breeder's potential customer base that look upon a whole herd as suspect if just a few animals in it trace to these bulls. Just because YOU (or I) choose to "accept" these animals doesn't mean its acceptable for everyone. I know plenty of long-time horned Hereford breeders that look upon ALL Polled Hereford genetics as "suspect". When you live in Texas, you don't have to drive far to find one that feels that way. That's probably the primary reason that we still have 2 State Hereford Breed Associations in Texas, the THA and the TPHA. In the case of Titan 23D, several long-time Hereford breeders advised me to avoid his influence when I was getting back into the business. I've tried to follow that advice because it just seemed pragmatic to do so. The diluter gene presents a problem and its presence pretty well confirms what most people "suspected" back in the 70s, but couldn't prove. One of these breeders that gave me that advice was a close friend of the person from the AHA that actually did the investigation on 23D. He said the AHA rep was totally convinced that there was absolutely no skulduggery involved among those involved in the breeding/importation/use of 23D. The AHA rep was certain it was an "honest" mistake...and a mistake that he was unable to prove at that time through bloodtesting the few related animals available. One person told me that the reason more POLLED breeders are accepting of the 23D influence in the breed is because of the rumors regarding 15G and that they figure the breed's gene pool was already tainted. So, regarding 15G, since hearing that rumor, I've been attempting to find out its basis, and how the breeders who were around during that time feel about it. I figure education would serve me a lot better than ignorance, ollie. Perhaps you disagree? George [/QUOTE]
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