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<blockquote data-quote="Lucky_P" data-source="post: 1171443" data-attributes="member: 12607"><p>I'm with you OS. </p><p>An 8 yr old bull with .91 accuracy...I'm more comfortable with - but things can still defy what you expect to get. </p><p></p><p>When we switched over from what I was comfortable with(AN & SM), and started using Shorthorn sires on some of our cows...different epd base, smaller population of animals, fewer progeny to lend accuracies - and lots of tales of folks fudging data submitted, I used only reputed calving ease bulls, and stayed away from using 'em on heifers until I had a few years' use under my belt. Now the Shorties have merged their epd database with SM, AR, GV - and the numbers have changed, just as I'd started getting comfortable and somewhat trusting of the old SH epds. Looking at the SH bulls we've used, I'm not sure their 'new' epds fit with the results I've experienced.</p><p></p><p>Sometimes you just have to trust folks - but, as RR said, "Trust, but verify!" </p><p>If the rumors are out there that a particular breeder has fudged numbers...you have to consider the possibility that it happened - even if it really didn't.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lucky_P, post: 1171443, member: 12607"] I'm with you OS. An 8 yr old bull with .91 accuracy...I'm more comfortable with - but things can still defy what you expect to get. When we switched over from what I was comfortable with(AN & SM), and started using Shorthorn sires on some of our cows...different epd base, smaller population of animals, fewer progeny to lend accuracies - and lots of tales of folks fudging data submitted, I used only reputed calving ease bulls, and stayed away from using 'em on heifers until I had a few years' use under my belt. Now the Shorties have merged their epd database with SM, AR, GV - and the numbers have changed, just as I'd started getting comfortable and somewhat trusting of the old SH epds. Looking at the SH bulls we've used, I'm not sure their 'new' epds fit with the results I've experienced. Sometimes you just have to trust folks - but, as RR said, "Trust, but verify!" If the rumors are out there that a particular breeder has fudged numbers...you have to consider the possibility that it happened - even if it really didn't. [/QUOTE]
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