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IBR Abortion Storm in Naive Herd
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<blockquote data-quote="inyati13" data-source="post: 993866" data-attributes="member: 17767"><p>Cowlover, I am not in western KY where Lucky_P is located but I am in KY probably 200 miles east of Lucky_P. I have not had any aborted calves in the short time I have been raising cattle but because I am putting a herd together from multiple sources, I decided to use a MLV vaccine not just for IBR but for BVD Type 1 and 2, BRSV and PI3. I selected Bovi-Shield Gold because it came recommended on the thread I started here on CT. I am using it at the current time on open heifers but would like all my cows vaccinated with a MLV vaccine. Last week I released a heifer that just calved back into the herd and I had vaccinated her. Keep in mind that your vet who rocommended Pyramid FP 5 + Presponse SQ may have done so not based on the incidence of IBR but because the other virals included.</p><p></p><p>I looked at the YouTube and that is really cause for concern. It gives me the impression that MLV vaccine for IBR should not be used in a breeding program. Now the gentlemen represents a drug company other than Pfizer which is a leader in the MLV vaccine so take it with a grain of salt. I do know that I have followed Pfizer's instructions and several posters mentioned they use the MLV. But the shedding of attenuated virus according to him is not worth the risk. Please tell us what the vet says to you after their research. Thanks.</p><p></p><p>I am following the directions on the pamplet inside the vaccine box very closely. I will trust that Pfizer has enough research behind their product that the vaccine does not cause a problem rather than prevent it. I should probably call the # I provided to you (take my own advise, hey) and see just how safe the vaccine is as far as introducing the virus.</p><p></p><p>PS I would like to hear from milkmaid/Lucky_P on this issue. I vaccinate a heifer that just calved with a MLV (as I mention above), turn her back into the herd and her calf nurses another cow even for a few seconds. The MLV although it is modified to be non-virulent, could it cause a problem in a pregnant cow it nurses? Wouldn't that be the similiar scenario to vaccinating a calf on a cow that had not been exposed to the MLV vaccine. Seems like these MLV carry some risk!!!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="inyati13, post: 993866, member: 17767"] Cowlover, I am not in western KY where Lucky_P is located but I am in KY probably 200 miles east of Lucky_P. I have not had any aborted calves in the short time I have been raising cattle but because I am putting a herd together from multiple sources, I decided to use a MLV vaccine not just for IBR but for BVD Type 1 and 2, BRSV and PI3. I selected Bovi-Shield Gold because it came recommended on the thread I started here on CT. I am using it at the current time on open heifers but would like all my cows vaccinated with a MLV vaccine. Last week I released a heifer that just calved back into the herd and I had vaccinated her. Keep in mind that your vet who rocommended Pyramid FP 5 + Presponse SQ may have done so not based on the incidence of IBR but because the other virals included. I looked at the YouTube and that is really cause for concern. It gives me the impression that MLV vaccine for IBR should not be used in a breeding program. Now the gentlemen represents a drug company other than Pfizer which is a leader in the MLV vaccine so take it with a grain of salt. I do know that I have followed Pfizer's instructions and several posters mentioned they use the MLV. But the shedding of attenuated virus according to him is not worth the risk. Please tell us what the vet says to you after their research. Thanks. I am following the directions on the pamplet inside the vaccine box very closely. I will trust that Pfizer has enough research behind their product that the vaccine does not cause a problem rather than prevent it. I should probably call the # I provided to you (take my own advise, hey) and see just how safe the vaccine is as far as introducing the virus. PS I would like to hear from milkmaid/Lucky_P on this issue. I vaccinate a heifer that just calved with a MLV (as I mention above), turn her back into the herd and her calf nurses another cow even for a few seconds. The MLV although it is modified to be non-virulent, could it cause a problem in a pregnant cow it nurses? Wouldn't that be the similiar scenario to vaccinating a calf on a cow that had not been exposed to the MLV vaccine. Seems like these MLV carry some risk!!! [/QUOTE]
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