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IBR Abortion Storm in Naive Herd
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<blockquote data-quote="milkmaid" data-source="post: 993630" data-attributes="member: 852"><p>Pyramid FP 5 + Presponse is a MLV by Boehringer Ingelheim, not Pfizer. Similar product however (eg similar label). There have been abortions in pregnant animals directly vaccinated with a MLV IBR vaccine, however, I'm not aware of any reported cases where a cattle aborted after fenceline contact. It would be interesting if so but I don't think I'd blame the vet for this one - there haven't been any reports out there indicating the fenceline contact could be a problem. Your best bet is to call the company. BIVI has been great to talk with in my experience and I suspect they'd be interested in knowing if their vaccine was involved. Call and tell them what the situation is - or have your vet call. Sometimes credentials help. ;-)</p><p></p><p>So the calves were vaccinated Dec 2nd and cows were preg checked Feb 3rd. When did the abortions start? IBR abortions are pretty predictable.</p><p></p><p>Re the home raised cows ~ in an ideal world, you'd get serum (blood samples) for reproductive/respiratory disease testing on all cows that had aborted and a few that hadn't, and send the samples to a diagnostic lab to evaluate titers. It may be that the home-raised 2009 cattle have something else making them more susceptible to disease. BVD-PI animals? different sire that wasn't used in any other year, eg immunologic defect? The 2012 purchases were probably vaccinated (or had the virus) before you bought them, and they were not naive - the most dangerous situation in a livestock operation is a naive herd - which is why they were not affected.</p><p></p><p>The other possibility is that something else came up that stressed the cows (eg weaning calves off the 2012 purchases) and the herpes virus the 2012 purchases (may) have been carrying "reactivated" when they were stressed, and they shed the virus - infecting your naive animals. The abortion storm may not be related to vaccination of the heifer calves at all.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="milkmaid, post: 993630, member: 852"] Pyramid FP 5 + Presponse is a MLV by Boehringer Ingelheim, not Pfizer. Similar product however (eg similar label). There have been abortions in pregnant animals directly vaccinated with a MLV IBR vaccine, however, I'm not aware of any reported cases where a cattle aborted after fenceline contact. It would be interesting if so but I don't think I'd blame the vet for this one - there haven't been any reports out there indicating the fenceline contact could be a problem. Your best bet is to call the company. BIVI has been great to talk with in my experience and I suspect they'd be interested in knowing if their vaccine was involved. Call and tell them what the situation is - or have your vet call. Sometimes credentials help. ;-) So the calves were vaccinated Dec 2nd and cows were preg checked Feb 3rd. When did the abortions start? IBR abortions are pretty predictable. Re the home raised cows ~ in an ideal world, you'd get serum (blood samples) for reproductive/respiratory disease testing on all cows that had aborted and a few that hadn't, and send the samples to a diagnostic lab to evaluate titers. It may be that the home-raised 2009 cattle have something else making them more susceptible to disease. BVD-PI animals? different sire that wasn't used in any other year, eg immunologic defect? The 2012 purchases were probably vaccinated (or had the virus) before you bought them, and they were not naive - the most dangerous situation in a livestock operation is a naive herd - which is why they were not affected. The other possibility is that something else came up that stressed the cows (eg weaning calves off the 2012 purchases) and the herpes virus the 2012 purchases (may) have been carrying "reactivated" when they were stressed, and they shed the virus - infecting your naive animals. The abortion storm may not be related to vaccination of the heifer calves at all. [/QUOTE]
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