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<blockquote data-quote="WalnutCrest" data-source="post: 1247509" data-attributes="member: 21715"><p>Fixed</p><p></p><p>***********************</p><p></p><p>AllForage -- The phrase "reasonable amount of inbreeding/linebreeding" is up for your interpretation ... whatever you consider to be reasonable. The intent of my words is to allow the responder to believe that no inbreeding is acceptable ... or ... to believe that only highly inbred animals are acceptable. I chose the words so you could apply the meaning you'd want to apply. This isn't a discussion of anything other than what, in the opinion of whomever would chose to respond, with the information provided, is the best way forward given the objective and the capital available. Also, the five bulls are not 'outcrossed' as I know the term ... one is (Bull 5), but not the other four. The first four bulls on the list were foundation bulls for each of the four herds that sold cows (i.e., Bull 1 came from Herd 1, and the scenario assumed you bought three cows from Herd 1 ... just like you did from Herd 2 (which is the herd that was based in large part on the contributions from Bull 2) ... etc ...). Bull 5 is the only one that's not very closely related to the others (but, as I noted in the scenario, you've been around this bull and have seen his calves and were impressed by them, hence your acquisition of semen). Lastly, the target market and management can be whatever you want it to be ... the cows and semen were acquired with whatever your target market is in mind.</p><p></p><p>The reason you bought cows from four different herds is because you found some aspects of what they were doing that you thought might really work for you ... but ... because you'd never had animals from any of the herds on your place and under your management, you decided to spread your risk a bit and get a sample set of females from each herd to try out.</p><p></p><p>So, with all that said and reading what you wrote, it would appear that you'd be in favor of something like this ---- "Breed Bull 1 to the cows that came from Herd 1, Breed Bull 2 to the cows from Herd 2, etc. and see which cows and calves perform best in your management with your objectives, and once this information is known, hit the gas pedal and start your ET work from there."</p><p></p><p>Is that close?</p><p></p><p>And, if it is, then, I think that's pretty close to what RV suggested earlier on...</p><p></p><p>And, DM, I think that what I am guessing would be AllForage's thoughts (given an improvement in my ability to communicate and his ability to comprehend) would also be pretty similar to what RV wrote. Amiright?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="WalnutCrest, post: 1247509, member: 21715"] Fixed *********************** AllForage -- The phrase "reasonable amount of inbreeding/linebreeding" is up for your interpretation ... whatever you consider to be reasonable. The intent of my words is to allow the responder to believe that no inbreeding is acceptable ... or ... to believe that only highly inbred animals are acceptable. I chose the words so you could apply the meaning you'd want to apply. This isn't a discussion of anything other than what, in the opinion of whomever would chose to respond, with the information provided, is the best way forward given the objective and the capital available. Also, the five bulls are not 'outcrossed' as I know the term ... one is (Bull 5), but not the other four. The first four bulls on the list were foundation bulls for each of the four herds that sold cows (i.e., Bull 1 came from Herd 1, and the scenario assumed you bought three cows from Herd 1 ... just like you did from Herd 2 (which is the herd that was based in large part on the contributions from Bull 2) ... etc ...). Bull 5 is the only one that's not very closely related to the others (but, as I noted in the scenario, you've been around this bull and have seen his calves and were impressed by them, hence your acquisition of semen). Lastly, the target market and management can be whatever you want it to be ... the cows and semen were acquired with whatever your target market is in mind. The reason you bought cows from four different herds is because you found some aspects of what they were doing that you thought might really work for you ... but ... because you'd never had animals from any of the herds on your place and under your management, you decided to spread your risk a bit and get a sample set of females from each herd to try out. So, with all that said and reading what you wrote, it would appear that you'd be in favor of something like this ---- "Breed Bull 1 to the cows that came from Herd 1, Breed Bull 2 to the cows from Herd 2, etc. and see which cows and calves perform best in your management with your objectives, and once this information is known, hit the gas pedal and start your ET work from there." Is that close? And, if it is, then, I think that's pretty close to what RV suggested earlier on... And, DM, I think that what I am guessing would be AllForage's thoughts (given an improvement in my ability to communicate and his ability to comprehend) would also be pretty similar to what RV wrote. Amiright? [/QUOTE]
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