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<blockquote data-quote="milkmaid" data-source="post: 1401356" data-attributes="member: 852"><p>For a local anesthetic no, it won't affect the calf... you're just blocking the area where the incision will be. It's how csections are traditionally done on a standing cow in the squeeze chute. (We don't do csections without anesthesia...) I wouldn't do sedation or general anesthesia since that would affect the calf in utero.</p><p></p><p>I'd try the traditional csection; remove the live, hopefully close to full term, unstressed calf - and then shoot the cow. Otherwise you're pulling a very stressed, possibly premie calf out, and we know those don't tend to do well. Disclaimer: you still might not get a live calf, but I think the first option at least gives you a chance of having a healthy live calf at the end of the day.</p><p></p><p>On the other hand - if you choose the terminal csection shoot-first-cut-second method instead - make sure to have ropes/chains available to tie the back legs. I shoot an embarrassing number of cattle on a very regular basis and the vast majority (99% probably) have post-death reflexes in the first 4 minutes that include violent kicking. Standing next to and cutting through the flank on a sporadically kicking 1200lb beast when you have a time limit is not a safe place to be. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite9" alt=":eek:" title="Eek! :eek:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":eek:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="milkmaid, post: 1401356, member: 852"] For a local anesthetic no, it won't affect the calf... you're just blocking the area where the incision will be. It's how csections are traditionally done on a standing cow in the squeeze chute. (We don't do csections without anesthesia...) I wouldn't do sedation or general anesthesia since that would affect the calf in utero. I'd try the traditional csection; remove the live, hopefully close to full term, unstressed calf - and then shoot the cow. Otherwise you're pulling a very stressed, possibly premie calf out, and we know those don't tend to do well. Disclaimer: you still might not get a live calf, but I think the first option at least gives you a chance of having a healthy live calf at the end of the day. On the other hand - if you choose the terminal csection shoot-first-cut-second method instead - make sure to have ropes/chains available to tie the back legs. I shoot an embarrassing number of cattle on a very regular basis and the vast majority (99% probably) have post-death reflexes in the first 4 minutes that include violent kicking. Standing next to and cutting through the flank on a sporadically kicking 1200lb beast when you have a time limit is not a safe place to be. :o [/QUOTE]
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