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<blockquote data-quote="TexasRancher" data-source="post: 1829666" data-attributes="member: 8359"><p>Since after 1900, no recent farmers or ranchers in my family. I'm first generation. Retired at 54, spent two years on metal detecting expeditions-goofing off-Before I got involved with land and then cattle.</p><p></p><p>I had been leasing my land with barn for 25 years-always horses-horse lovers. My last leasee left when I was 56. Basically the land (held many barbeque-beer parties) got severely trashed and dumped on...sofa sleepers, mattresses, horse blankets, ovens, washer-dryers, hundreds of pallets, soiled diapers, 63 tires over ~ 4,000. beer bottles, aluminum can, plastic bottles I picked up. Barn had several beam poles missing due to idiot modifications and was sagging...almost lost a floor and part of the roof. I cleaned it all up, jacked and re-poled the barn...and burned for 5 days-day and night. Ran magnets to collect up nails. Scrapped al the steel and start added T-post and post to re-fencing with 5 strands. Ran magnets to collect up nails</p><p></p><p>During the clean-up I fell in love with the land. I had always loved seeing cattle out in the fields…and since I basically built a nice "clean-safe" home for them…I bought 7 heifers and 1 bull onto the land for breeding.</p><p></p><p>It was a blast learning and figuring out stuff as I went. I didn't know what I was doing but I was having a ball. I'm 4 years in now.</p><p></p><p>My findings being first generation over 55 when starting: (if anyone's interested in what a newbie finds amazing/fun/difficult).</p><p></p><p>I learn about all the types of grasses and all types of weeds, the good the bad the ugly.</p><p></p><p>My biggest delight are making those yearly small ranch improvements to equipment and infrastructure that save time, reduce manual effort and provide better safety. If I'm going to get old with cattle…I need "easy".</p><p></p><p>What I found funny….was every cattle producer is doing things differently, and they don't know what they're doing either. I know I do crazy things too…but some of these folks are seasoned cattleman are making what I'd call mistakes (financially or effort wise)….and they admit they don't know what they're doing either.</p><p></p><p>I was incredibly worried about the sale barn being "open" to accept my cattle the first time I went. I called ahead to learn about the process and confirm dates and times. It's like you do all this work, gathering cattle, sorting, loading and hauling…and my biggest fear was the sale barn closed, or not taking in cattle. Being an engineer, I could rely on myself…but I was at the mercy of a sale barn being open. In any event it turns out…there wasn't anything to worry about. They take cattle a day (even two, three) before the sale date, check the dates for each sale barn…no news, means the sale is on.</p><p></p><p>Not many regulations for cattle producers…I was amazed at unloading at a sale barn and they only need a name and address. They didn't care the slightest about my cattle, ages, breeds, vaccinations, registrations…they all go into one big melting sale pot, weigh them and sell them. I enjoyed learning about FSA, RCPP, USDA, NRCS and signing up for anything beneficial to my business. Sure it's a lot of fun and hard work but it's a business at the end of the day. I only expect to break even, stay health and give back to society. Being new to farming-cattle, it amazes me at how unregulated things are in cattle and hay; no standards or linkages between farms/farmers communication wise: ( who's selling what cattle, hogs, chickens and what type of hay produced on their farm and where's the roster where I sign-up for hay in advance? So we both can have "peace and comfort" producing, buying and selling). No standards...It's both a blessing and a curse. You're free to do what you want to do, your own way….but it's very difficult to find grain producers (in the area, I'm in) or find a reliable hay producer, hay relationship (during droughts) when you're near big cities (Dallas, Texas) where farming is going extinct.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TexasRancher, post: 1829666, member: 8359"] Since after 1900, no recent farmers or ranchers in my family. I'm first generation. Retired at 54, spent two years on metal detecting expeditions-goofing off-Before I got involved with land and then cattle. I had been leasing my land with barn for 25 years-always horses-horse lovers. My last leasee left when I was 56. Basically the land (held many barbeque-beer parties) got severely trashed and dumped on...sofa sleepers, mattresses, horse blankets, ovens, washer-dryers, hundreds of pallets, soiled diapers, 63 tires over ~ 4,000. beer bottles, aluminum can, plastic bottles I picked up. Barn had several beam poles missing due to idiot modifications and was sagging...almost lost a floor and part of the roof. I cleaned it all up, jacked and re-poled the barn...and burned for 5 days-day and night. Ran magnets to collect up nails. Scrapped al the steel and start added T-post and post to re-fencing with 5 strands. Ran magnets to collect up nails During the clean-up I fell in love with the land. I had always loved seeing cattle out in the fields…and since I basically built a nice "clean-safe" home for them…I bought 7 heifers and 1 bull onto the land for breeding. It was a blast learning and figuring out stuff as I went. I didn't know what I was doing but I was having a ball. I'm 4 years in now. My findings being first generation over 55 when starting: (if anyone's interested in what a newbie finds amazing/fun/difficult). I learn about all the types of grasses and all types of weeds, the good the bad the ugly. My biggest delight are making those yearly small ranch improvements to equipment and infrastructure that save time, reduce manual effort and provide better safety. If I'm going to get old with cattle…I need "easy". What I found funny….was every cattle producer is doing things differently, and they don't know what they're doing either. I know I do crazy things too…but some of these folks are seasoned cattleman are making what I'd call mistakes (financially or effort wise)….and they admit they don't know what they're doing either. I was incredibly worried about the sale barn being "open" to accept my cattle the first time I went. I called ahead to learn about the process and confirm dates and times. It's like you do all this work, gathering cattle, sorting, loading and hauling…and my biggest fear was the sale barn closed, or not taking in cattle. Being an engineer, I could rely on myself…but I was at the mercy of a sale barn being open. In any event it turns out…there wasn't anything to worry about. They take cattle a day (even two, three) before the sale date, check the dates for each sale barn…no news, means the sale is on. Not many regulations for cattle producers…I was amazed at unloading at a sale barn and they only need a name and address. They didn't care the slightest about my cattle, ages, breeds, vaccinations, registrations…they all go into one big melting sale pot, weigh them and sell them. I enjoyed learning about FSA, RCPP, USDA, NRCS and signing up for anything beneficial to my business. Sure it's a lot of fun and hard work but it's a business at the end of the day. I only expect to break even, stay health and give back to society. Being new to farming-cattle, it amazes me at how unregulated things are in cattle and hay; no standards or linkages between farms/farmers communication wise: ( who's selling what cattle, hogs, chickens and what type of hay produced on their farm and where's the roster where I sign-up for hay in advance? So we both can have "peace and comfort" producing, buying and selling). No standards...It's both a blessing and a curse. You're free to do what you want to do, your own way….but it's very difficult to find grain producers (in the area, I'm in) or find a reliable hay producer, hay relationship (during droughts) when you're near big cities (Dallas, Texas) where farming is going extinct. [/QUOTE]
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